Herman Kloppenburg NYC 4-6-0 1937

[Carey Williams]

Hello all ...with luck there will be less controversy about this steamer ..... at the March meet ..upon Mike Hill's table sat a 17/64ths NYC ten wheeler ..with no id ...just a nice old engine with an up scale paint job ... negotiations commenced , arm wrestling ensued..and the engine came home with me in the hopes one day it would be identified.

Two days ago looking in MR 1937 for Joe's President Washington with Henry parts ....there in July (1937) was my engine .... ok a different tender..but engine is the same ... and it states 17/64ths ... and built by Herman Kloppenburg of Pittsbugh .... running on the YUT RR in Youngstown , OH .

A quick search on the mighty WWW Herman was also a builder of live steam engines ,( on youtube there is a video of Herman built B&O Presdient Washington ,yes a real one) ... anymore examples of Herman's work out there ?

Engine runs very well ... holes remain on frame were some ill guided individual severed the outside 3rd rail pick ups .

Cheers Carey

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[E7]

In the words of Bob Turner: "Me Like!" Sorry Bob, couldn't resist! It really is a nice looking loco......and I like that P&LE stuff!

Rich

[De Bruin]

Agree with Rich, that's a beauty!
I love smaller steam like this, so "just right" size wise for O scale. Also easier to build a train for as in less cars than the 20th Century etc,
Was this originally a Scalecraft, or Mi-Loco or some such?
Nice!

[Carey Williams]

Hello all...I believe the engine is all scratch built ....Herman knew his stuff

here is a link to watch his 3/4" scale Prez Wash in action ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izU20kHExe0

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cheers Carey

[stephen neill]

I met a guy at a show about 25 years ago, this may be him. He had scratch built about 20-30 steam engines, I don't remember them being 17/64 ths but they were all outside 3rd rail. He said if he wanted something he just scratch built it. He died within about 2 years and his sons sold the engines, but they had them all 2 railed, I saw them at a later show. Pittsburgh seems right, but somewhere in that general area anyway. Anyone else remember this guy?
Steve

[PRRK4s]

I'm late on this thread, just stumbled on it during a search. I had mentioned Kloppenberg much earlier than this thread but no one at the time seemed to know much about him. I acquired two of his models a dozen years ago. A PRR G5s and a PRR L1s. Both I believe 17/64 as they are a tad beefier than my other scale locos/cars. Both were outside 3 rail pickups but very simply removed the slider shoe and they operate on 2 rail as the drivers were already insulated. From info gathered since my ownership Herman had built two a PRR G5's. One in 1938 and another around 1980. Included here are two photos of mine. It was the one built in 1938. The b/w photo is the builders builder photo from 1938. The color shot is of the model as of a few years ago. The interesting feature on this particular model is the coasting drive gearing. The L1 that he had built, probably from the 1930's or 40's, has a traditional drive.

[bob turner]

The guy was apparently an artist.
My iPad has decided it doesn't like Carey's photos?

[ScaleCraft]

The guy was apparently an artist.
My iPad has decided it doesn't like Carey's photos?

If you're talking about his July 2018 photos, yeah, new software doesn't like those links.

[Carey Williams]

Great looking G5 thank you for posting ... my run runs like a charm .. can you please post photos of your L1? thank you cheers Carey

[bob turner]

Too bad - I would have loved to see them again.

I posted a photo last week. I could see it on the forum for a couple days - now replaced with a question mark, just like Carey's stuff.

[PRRK4s]

Carey, here are a few photos of the L1s. I'm assuming Kloppenberg built this prior to when the PRR started adding dog houses to the tender decks. He probably built from what he was looking at in person at the time. Still a hand bomber too. Also acquired at the time of the Kloppenberg locos was this Icken E6s. That one is still outside 3rd rail with uninsulated drivers. Leaving as is, even with the failing hand lettered stripes and lettering. Part of its history.

[rogruth]

They all look great to me.

[bob turner]

Me too. Thanks for sharing.