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Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:29 pm
by bob turner
Yep. This one will be strange.
I have a genuine Lobaugh Hudson boiler. I know - Lobaugh never, ever made a Hudson kit. But this one has all the Lobaugh characteristics - spun brass barrel with machine cut slots for running boards, separate smokebox and firebox with pretty good rivet detail matching that found in Lobaugh kits, and assembled with the Lobaugh "Sport" cab supplied with the Mike and Pacific,and a Berkshire sand dome.
I have posted a photo before, but can't find it. I shall post it again.
But right now, after doing four "Mobilgas" tanks and a Scale Craft box car, I am back to steam, and knee deep in resurrecting this thing. It measures out to almost exact scale for a Burlington 4000-series Hudson, but I am going to commit blasphemy and make it SP.
So expect the first three or four photos to be really ugly, and then it will turn into an OK model. No boiler bands or washout plugs or lag clamps, and no cab rivets (just like Lobaugh) but it will be semi-decent when I am done. Stay tuned?
It would be neat if others shared Hudson photos, and even more neat if it doesn't degenerate into some weird legal discussion (guilty).
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:43 pm
by E7
The nicest one i have seen was recently on Feebay, an Overland (newer).
https://www.ebay.com/itm/O-SCALE-BRASS- ... 7675.l2557
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:06 pm
by bob turner
Relisted one like it.
Here is the really rough boiler:

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Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2018 11:08 pm
by bob turner
Took me a while to find it. I have lots of really neat Hudson photos, including one Corbin Hudson. We'll see how this goes . . .
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:28 am
by Rufus T. Firefly
bob turner wrote: I have lots of really neat Hudson photos, including one Corbin Hudson.
Post them?
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 2:25 pm
by R.K. Maroon
Bob -- I am curious about how you identified this as a Hudson boiler. It seems some boilers are interchangeable -- boilers for Pacifics and Mikados often get swapped for instance. As another example, brother Pete's club has a Hudson that has been converted to a Pacific and it looks proportionally OK to me (and apparently looks ok to a good number of others). If a Pacific can be a Mikado why couldn't a Hudson be a Berkshire (or other)?
Inquiring minds want to know
Jim
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2018 3:32 pm
by bob turner
I will check on the Berk. The Pacific/Mike is shorter.
Yes - could be the Berk barrel. Smokebox is lots longer, as is the firebox. I need to check barrel diameters. The 80” drivers wouldn’t fit without the extra length.
Woody could maybe shed some light on one-offLobaugh stuff.
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:40 pm
by bob turner
Cleaned up a bit - note the graceful lines matching up with the SP tender. Still to be determined: feedwater and air pump locations.

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Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:08 pm
by bob turner
A teeny bit of progress. Not sure yet on the trailing truck, but feedwater arrangement is determined. Pipes, injectors, and cab decorations next. I note that the bead blaster added a bit of distortion to the cab. Easy to straighten, but surprising.

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Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 2:21 pm
by bob turner
Getting closer. I have all piping applied and a nice coat of gloss black. It will be SP #5121, falling in right behind the GE 70-ton Diesels. I think that is an open number. No photo yet - I shall wait for decals, cab window frames, and class lamps, and maybe some brushed-on graphite. In the meantime, here is a Corbin, from the collection of the late Jim Seacrest:

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Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2018 3:26 pm
by R.K. Maroon
Bob, since you posted somebody else's CB&Q Hudson, how about I post one of yours?



A friend sent me these photos, with the story that he bought the model from the guy that bought it from Bob. I later saw the model in person and will say that it deserves better photos than these. I also have video somewhere of it running.
I have photos of another scratch CB&Q Hudson somewhere in the files. I will look. The prototypes were indeed good looking locomotives. I know the Milwaukee Road and the Santa Fe had Hudsons that were either plentiful or distinctive enough to be notable. Anybody else west of the Mississippi?
Jim
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:30 am
by De Bruin
Hudsons west of the Mississippi? Besides Milw and AT&SF surprisingly not that many roads;
Frisco
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/slsf/slsf-s1060g18.jpgWabash (which some people forget its mainline to KC and sub to Omaha)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/wab/wab-s706ajg.jpgC&NW
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/cnw/cnw-s4008o.jpgNdeM (well technically it is "west" too)
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ndem/ndem-s2705v.jpgIC had one, but I don't think it ran on the Iowa Lines or the Y&MV.
Of course CP and CN had a lot of them too.
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 2:13 pm
by bob turner
Almost finished. A road number and real camera portrait next.

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Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:11 pm
by R.K. Maroon
Pete -- thanks for posting those links. The Frisco, Wabash, and C&NW examples are all handsome locomotives, assuming that one likes them all dolled up like that. I do, but only to a point -- I really like modeling the bread-and-butter workhorses like the NdeM version instead. Did you cherry pick those to show off the best of the litter, or were there so few that the streamlined examples were representative? Yes, I know I could do the research myself but I am guessing you have this information already loaded in the memory banks.
Oh, and you left Bob's locomotive off the list too. I am not much of a fan of fantasy locomotives but I will admit that I like the look and proportions of this one.
As it is, I have been restoring a Scale-Craft Hudson recently. I have the chassis cleaned up and running nicely and just finished bringing the tender into good shape. I will have the stock oversize headlight replaced in a day or two -- the new one will be more accurately sized and be constant brightness to boot. So just when I thought I was getting close to the end of the project, I notice this:

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Funny how you can own a model for quite some time before noticing that a wheelset is completely hosed up. It's bad enough that one side is spoked and the other is not, but the wheels aren't even the same size. The uninsulated wheel spins on the axle. *sigh* -- I see PSC sells a 45" set of spoked wheels. It is a little small for the prototype and I am not crazy about that shiny finish (plating?) that PSC puts on their wheels, but it will do in a pinch. Before I order it, I thought I would ask: Anybody know of another source?
Jim
Re: Another Hudson Thread?
Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:48 pm
by Rufus T. Firefly
R.K. Maroon wrote:I see PSC sells a 45" set of spoked wheels. It is a little small for the prototype and I am not crazy about that shiny finish (plating?) that PSC puts on their wheels, but it will do in a pinch. Before I order it, I thought I would ask: Anybody know of another source?
Might check in with Bill Davis