Interesting COVID thread on OGF

[ScaleCraft]

An event I have been watching with interest is the Carlisle, PA outdoor car show. I’ve never been, but its a large outdoor car display and parts market that draws thousands. The PA department of health Actually tried to block it and filed an injunction- it went to court and the judge basically said “Why is it ok for the governor to march with protestors and ignore all rules of social distancing, and the car show is a problem?” The PA dept of health (which by the way the PA secretary of health is an openly transsexual woman...) Withdrew its injunction and the car show went ahead:

www.pennlive.com/news/2020/06/wolfs-mar ... -show.html

I am hoping York will go ahead - perhaps with more of an outdoor area to satisfy social distancing guidelines. God only knows, I definitely need more beer, more good times with friends and more trains- here's hoping to a Fall York!
https://o-gaugeforum.com/thread/1527/co ... eet?page=7

and:


Gov. Wolf of Pennsylvania today announced that new restrictions will be put in place and last till the end of March 2021. One of the restrictions is limiting venues to 250 and if things don't get better to will be reduced to 25.
https://o-gaugeforum.com/thread/1978/lo ... york-doubt

[chuck]

here's hoping to a Fall York!

It's always good to have hope. I doubt that York will make the cut as it is mostly indoors and the risk factors are significantly higher in an enclosed building with probably minimal air circulation. Outdoor even SHOULD be less risky if people mask up and a) social distance and b) keep moving. If someone is actively shedding virus the worse thing you can do is hang around them.

[robert.]

You wont see York this year. Carlisle was a special thing. Pa's senate had just voted to the governor's Emergency resolution. In the early hours of the morning the marched their veto over to his house. He then refused to left his mandate over businesses. Saying "it needs to be tried in court" When senators approached a local magistrate. governor wolf declared a kings bench. This act skipped all courts from hearing it and went right to the state supreme court. where it quickly got placed on a 3 month waiting list. that means hr836 was on hold.
Had that local magistrate heard the case and ruled in favor of hr836. governor wolf would has lost his battle. In a late night meeting the dropped their case against Carlisle's promoter to save his veto of hr836. This in turn keep an over ride of his veto out of a republican court. Where he was sure to fail. 75 percent of Carlisle vendors left before anything was settled on how to open. Making Carlisle a ghost town of a swap meet. Carlisle is an outside car show. on something along the lines of 600 acres.
Pa now has 14 days of self quarantine for people arriving from 13-15 states. The city of Philadelphia has pulled all permits for public gathering of 50 more people. Nothing will be reissued until March 1 of 2021. you can tell ogr forum people i will bet a dollar a doughnut that York wont happen in October. Carlisle only happened to circumnavigate a legal process in Pa law making.

[healey36]

Yeah, I doubt Fall York goes down. Progress on getting this illness under control seems to have leveled off. That and the fact that the median age of York attendees is squarely in the hi-risk category...nope, not happening.

[v8vega]

They canceled the New Years Pasadena Rose Parade, they're going nuts, they have to keep the frenzy going at all costs. Coronavirus will come to a dead halt the second Trump is no longer president.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Yeah, I doubt Fall York goes down.

This year is probably lost.

Progress on getting this illness under control seems to have leveled off.

Maybe in PA, but not the rest of the country where only now are some states that are confronted with hospitals filling up are finally getting the message that this is real and action is needed.

That and the fact that the median age of York attendees is squarely in the hi-risk category...nope, not happening.

Yes, almost foolish to hold it.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Coronavirus will come to a dead halt the second Trump is no longer president.

136,000 dead people and their families say otherwise.

[bob turner]

Not to mention those with lingering, possibly permanent, lung or brain damage. There is an anecdote going around that a dying patient's last words were that he was wrong assuming Covid was a hoax.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Not to mention those with lingering, possibly permanent, lung or brain damage.

There is also a renal damage component.

[Roy]

Even if Donnie Darko isn't re-elected, his lack-of-policy will be in effect until late January, 2021. You can write off Spring York, too. If he is re-elected, you can write off more.

[Roy]

There is an anecdote going around that a dying patient's last words were that he was wrong assuming Covid was a hoax.

A thirty year old Texan, who went to a Covid party. I'd rather play Russian roulette.

[chuck]

74,000 new cases today shattering the old record set last Saturday of 68,000. 1,400 people died in the last 24 hours.

[v8vega]

Those numbers mean nothing. Every time someone gets tested it counts as a new case and many get tested numerous times. And everyone who dies is counted as a corona death. Ever notice how they never give total deaths.

[chuck]

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

I'm not sure who "they" are that you are talking about. The statistics you are speaking about do exist and are easily accessible if you look for them.

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/cumulative-cases

or

https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus/country/united-states?country=~USA

Screen grabs of the graphs that seem to match your request:





Most of the graphs showing up in the media are "trend" graphs which empathize rates of change as opposed to absolute numbers. Both are shockingly bad.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Ever notice how they never give total deaths.

Must be deaf and blind - that's available daily and can be checked any time.