A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Play nice and have fun... AS OF JULY 12 2025, THIS FORUM IS LOCKED.
User avatar
MurphOnMillerAve
Posts: 18489
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:18 pm
Location: Kennywood Park
Contact:

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:00 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
MurphOnMillerAve wrote:...... there is an amazing absence of litter, esp. plastic cups, bottles, and styrofoam packaging floating and blowing all around, as well as a total absence of graffiti in these latest photos provided by Rufus. (I wonder who started all that mess.)


100 years ago none of that stuff existed. The world was not dominated by a disposable existence and everything was reused as a matter of course. Bottles were 5 cents deposit when I was a lad. That disconnection to a tangible value may have some impact on why everything became disposable and then why so much was not worth the time to get up and walk over to a trash can and put it in its proper place. People stopped caring and decided that it just did not matter and for that matter what's a little more in our environment anyway...the world can absorb more trash and rubbish and why should I care, etc......

Graffiti has been around as long as man has been able to express himself graphically.

Those photos were also out in what is still something closer to nowhere than the majority of people will ever experience. But even then the people that lived there bothered to pick up after themselves.

Sadly, that's not been true for many, many years. People stopped caring.

Rufus, You make so many interesting points and perspectives.
Taking the last one first, when I taught art history in Italy, we took note of a graffiti remark written in charcoal on a marble (hence its longevity) entrance stone to an sport arena in Pompeii. It said, in effect, that so-and-so was the best athlete. Inscribed right next to it was that it was only his mother who thought so. I enjoyed that. (Graffiti is an Italian word: graffio, [i] meaning "a scratch."

Yet, I must add, that when I travel around parts of this country, esp. along interstates, if I see "tags" and all sort of illegitimate writings and drawings on the walls along the highways, to me, that announces a certain "ilk" [i]presides
there, and I avoid taking the next exit. Somebody has marked "their territory" with their "scent," and I have gotten the (unwelcome) message. I feel safer, too, staying out of such areas.

Regarding the litter you mentioned not existing a hundred years ago, that's another good point, of course. However, sixty years ago, when I was a boy, some kids used to think nothing of throwing their candy wrappers and snack bags onto the street or out car windows when finished with them. Also, I recall an effort being inaugurated back in the early 60's (or was it the late-50's?) that started urging people to be desirous of not being "litter bugs." That stuck with me. We can't stop others from inflicting their mess on everybody else, but we surely can refrain from adding personally to the heaps.

Mitch used the word, "slobs," which to me fits somebody who does not consider how his actions with garbage or disposable packaging affects others. If you can forgive my using one of the photos of my "close-to-nowhere" retreat place, again, when I walk here, it never occurs to me to throw anything (except for maybe the occasional peach-pit or apple-core) into/onto the environment. Garbage-up "my" own pleasant place, a place others visit and enjoy, also, for peace and quiet and an escape from slobs?! Not I (and apparently, not others either.) I've never seen a single piece of anything man-made littering the roadway, its edges, or the forest interior. Even the deer appear to be neat (!)
Attachments
IMG_0643.JPG
IMG_0643.JPG (489.47 KiB) Viewed 2270 times

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:25 am

MurphOnMillerAve wrote: Mitch used the word, "slobs," which to me fits somebody who does not consider how his actions with garbage or disposable packaging affects others.


Mitch was surprisingly polite. A-holes would be my starting point and would descend rapidly to more colorful and descriptive adjectives.

They tempt me to borrow a garbage truck and dump a load on their front lawns.
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 11:27 am

A little closer... Oh, look! There's a train!

Image
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
rogruth
Posts: 24452
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:32 pm
Location: pembroke,ga

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:26 pm

Rufus,

The photographer was really waiting to photograph the train and not just the tracks.
He might have been an early railfan of the modern type.
Well, it is possible. :D
roger

I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH

User avatar
MurphOnMillerAve
Posts: 18489
Joined: Fri Jul 18, 2008 10:18 pm
Location: Kennywood Park
Contact:

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:32 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:... A-holes would be my starting point and would descend rapidly to more colorful and descriptive adjectives.
They tempt me to borrow a garbage truck and dump a load on their front lawns.

I actually have a cousin, by-marriage, who did that. He owns a garbage truck co. and when a restaurant he used to service wasn't paying the bill and started giving attitude, they found their garbage - the entire load - returned to their restaurant's parking lot one day. The bill got paid, but afterward he was refused service from then onward. :mrgreen:

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:43 pm

rogruth wrote:Rufus,

The photographer was really waiting to photograph the train and not just the tracks.
He might have been an early railfan of the modern type.
Well, it is possible. :D


Certainly possible, but photographers made their living shooting picture of interest to anybody that would buy them - probably shot an entire series at that location to sell as a set. If you can recall also the stereopticon cards, these were sold in sets to tell stories, relate events, etc.
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:43 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:... A-holes would be my starting point and would descend rapidly to more colorful and descriptive adjectives.
They tempt me to borrow a garbage truck and dump a load on their front lawns.

I actually have a cousin, by-marriage, who did that. He owns a garbage truck co. and when a restaurant he used to service wasn't paying the bill and started giving attitude, they found their garbage - the entire load - returned to their restaurant's parking lot one day. The bill got paid, but afterward he was refused service from then onward. :mrgreen:


Worth it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
rogruth
Posts: 24452
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:32 pm
Location: pembroke,ga

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:59 pm

I remember the stereopticon cards. They were fascinating.
roger

I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 2:39 pm

rogruth wrote:I remember the stereopticon cards. They were fascinating.


I have many of them - even one of the CVRR engine Pioneer. Also have a hand-held viewer and a old coin operated viewer.

Here is one of a rather intriguing Eire gondola.....A-frame side door with 3 trucks.

Image

I have built an A-frame side door gondola in the past - the 3 truck arrangement baffles me a bit on the brake plumbing and cylinder placement....unless it's all hand brake actuated.
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

J. S. Bach
Posts: 5820
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 9:30 pm

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby J. S. Bach » Tue Feb 02, 2016 5:39 pm

Could it be that the center truck is not "braked"; just "floating" there to support the load? Anyway, I have saved that image to my "Stereopticon views" folder.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:52 pm

J. S. Bach wrote:Could it be that the center truck is not "braked"; just "floating" there to support the load?


Sure. Where do you put the brake cylinder under that car though with the center occupied by a car bolster adn a 3rd truck? Is there a brake cylinder under there at all? Just another "there's a prototype for everything" photo.....
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Feb 03, 2016 7:37 am

And there goes a train........

Image
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

User avatar
rogruth
Posts: 24452
Joined: Sun Aug 14, 2005 8:32 pm
Location: pembroke,ga

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby rogruth » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:09 am

Look at those loaders in the stereo photo.
roger

I support thread drift.
If God didn't want women to be looked at, He would have made 'em ugly. RAH

User avatar
Rufus T. Firefly
Posts: 42164
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 7:52 am
Location: To be Determined

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:45 am

rogruth wrote:Look at those loaders in the stereo photo.


Image
If you only read the books that everyone else is reading, you can only think what everyone else is thinking.

J. S. Bach
Posts: 5820
Joined: Wed May 16, 2007 9:30 pm

Re: A few CVRR pictures and some other related pictures....

Postby J. S. Bach » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:40 pm

rogruth wrote:Look at those loaders in the stereo photo.

Hewletts (sp?), I think.


Return to “The Club Car Lounge”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 113 guests