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Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sat Mar 03, 2018 8:28 pm

As you know, many toy train sets, especially the least expensive ones, came with 2-4-0 steam locomotives. There actually were many full-size 2-4-0 engines built. Not much seems to be written about them. They don't even have a Whyte designation. Some have called them Porters, and Porter did have a preference for the wheel arrangement. But, many other builders made them, too.

Do you have any favorite real 2-4-0s?
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 10:40 am

Here's Montezuma, the first locomotive on the three-foot gauge Denver & Rio Grande Railway. This is it's builders photo, taken outside the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1871.

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Mar 04, 2018 12:25 pm

I have this model that in reality is probably supposed to be a 4-4-0, but this is how is came to me and I just touched it up a little.

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:37 pm

In the 1930s Lionel made a standard gauge model of a 2-4-0 #384

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:45 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I have this model that in reality is probably supposed to be a 4-4-0, but this is how is came to me and I just touched it up a little.

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Well, Porter had a similar engine in their catalogue:

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This was the largest of their 2-4-0 offerings, and with it's drivers at the rear, it definitely draws on the 4-4-0 design.
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Sun Mar 04, 2018 1:50 pm

Roy wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I have this model that in reality is probably supposed to be a 4-4-0, but this is how is came to me and I just touched it up a little.

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Well, Porter had a similar engine in their catalogue:

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This was the largest of their 2-4-0 offerings, and with it's drivers at the rear, it definitely draws on the 4-4-0 design.


Thanks for posting that photo! Makes my model all the better now! Picked it up along with another small 4-4-0 a few years ago - nice totally scratch engines!
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sun Mar 04, 2018 2:37 pm

HONDO74 wrote:In the 1930s Lionel made a standard gauge model of a 2-4-0 #384

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My first Lionel train set had this engine in it. It only had a hand reverse. I don't think it even had a headlight.:

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:27 am

This is one of my favorite 2-4-0s. It's Baldwin, and narrow gauge. I don't know if it ran on a sugar plantation, or at a candy factory.

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:38 am

Roy wrote:This is one of my favorite 2-4-0s. It's Baldwin, and narrow gauge. I don't know if it ran on a sugar plantation, or at a candy factory.


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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 8:38 am

I think a lot of U.K. 2-4-0s had the unpowered axle mounted in the frame, not in a radial truck.
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 10, 2018 6:44 pm

(Apparently irrelevant.)
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby Roy » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:40 pm

MurphOnMillerAve wrote:I was hoping this information might be interesting for your topic, Roy, perhaps to compare and to contrast, as well as to consider the part Rogers Locomotive Works played in the history of such locomotives. It is from the Rogers Locomotive Museum site, Paterson, NJ...

Murph, I don't know anything about Rogers. I found this 1897 Rogers catalogue for you, but I didn't see any reference to 2-4-0s in it:

https://archive.org/stream/rogerslocomotive00roge#page/n0/mode/2up
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:42 pm

OK, thanks a lot.
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Re: Real 2-4-0 Steam Locomotives

Postby John Webster » Sun Mar 11, 2018 1:02 am

Thanks for the catalog Roy. That's right in my era of interest.
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