The invasion of North America

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The invasion of North America

Postby webenda » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:23 pm

The arrival of Christopher Columbus in 1492 started the European invasion of the Americas. They are still coming to one of the American countries, the United States of America. Only this time from the Americas... 70,000 Kids Will Show Up Alone at Our Border This Year.
--https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/child-migrants-surge-unaccompanied-central-america/

Why are they coming here?

Here is just one of a thousand stories about, "Why?"

He’d grown up mostly on the streets in Guatemala City, his abusive father a crack addict and his mother everywhere but around, leaving him with a thin, green-eyed prostitute friend who would sometimes have sex with johns right there next to him. He’d seen robberies, stabbings, shootings; he’d never once set foot in a classroom. Eventually he started making a little money selling clothes and makeup in the city’s colonial district. It wasn’t much, but even so the Barrio 18 street gang took notice and started asking for a cut. When Adrián didn’t budge, they pockmarked his tiny stall with bullets. It was time to leave.

In a doorless desert safe house in northwestern Mexico, the drug traffickers sized him up—17 years old, 1,700 miles from home, gay, alone—and asked if he was too scared to strap on a load of marijuana and walk across the border into Arizona.

The kid paused to consider his options. He didn’t have any. Okay, he told them. He’d do it.

On the train to deliver the drugs and hopefully find peace in his life at last.
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----Wayne----

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby HONDO74 » Sun Jun 24, 2018 9:42 pm

At what time in the future will Tuscon become Guatemala City ?

Homeless in Tuscon.
http://www.tucsonhope.org/homeless-facts/
In 2015, DES reported 2,957 homeless living in Arizona, an 18 percent increase from 2014. Pima County accounts for 15 percent of the State’s total population and 16 percent of the State’s homeless population. The density of Pima County’s homeless population remains the highest in the State.

What will "Adrián" do when he gets here. Continue to traffic drugs for the cartels. He won't be able to get a job unless he uses stolen identity since he will have entered the county illegally.

I understand what you are trying to convey. Is it possible to fix Guatemala ? we have given them millions of dollars to help them.

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby webenda » Mon Jun 25, 2018 12:21 am

HONDO74 wrote:At what time in the future will Tuscon become Guatemala City ?

Homeless in Tuscon.
http://www.tucsonhope.org/homeless-facts/
In 2015, DES reported 2,957 homeless living in Arizona, an 18 percent increase from 2014. Pima County accounts for 15 percent of the State’s total population and 16 percent of the State’s homeless population. The density of Pima County’s homeless population remains the highest in the State.

What will "Adrián" do when he gets here. Continue to traffic drugs for the cartels. He won't be able to get a job unless he uses stolen identity since he will have entered the county illegally.

I understand what you are trying to convey. Is it possible to fix Guatemala? we have given them millions of dollars to help them.

In my opinion, it is not possible to fix Guatemala or the United States of America. Opinions are destroying us. Everyone fights to achieve what in their opinion is the fix. And there are too many attempts to sabotage the fixes put in place by another with a different opinion.

Adrian will work in a tire shop with all the other illegal Guatemalans. Just ask v8vega.

I was initially skeptical about v8vega's claim that the guys in the tire shops around his neighborhood were all illegals. Then some friends and I approached a tire shop here in Tucson, all dressed like I usually am dressed.
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Everyone ran out the back door except one, who ran out the front, right into our hands. We offered him a bible tract. They gave themselves away just by running. If they had stayed we would never have known their citizenship status.

Tucson will never become "Nueva Ciudad de Guatemala," it is already "Little Mexico," which I approve of.
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 25, 2018 8:13 am

We could try this approach. If you cant feed them don't breed them. If the catholic church would preach and allow Birth control Just maybe some of these poorer countries would be less populated . Might cut down on kids having kids.
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby up148 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 10:58 am

robert. wrote:We could try this approach. If you cant feed them don't breed them. If the catholic church would preach and allow Birth control Just maybe some of these poorer countries would be less populated . Might cut down on kids having kids.



Robert, you are so correct! I'm disgusted with the Catholic church and grew up as a "mackerel snapper". World overpopulation is a major problem for all of us today and any organization that condones no birth control is idiotic. Look at India, absolutely overrun with people. If a country can't support the population they need to enforce sterilization of something. It is totally wrong to allow people too ignorant to know what they are doing to breed like animals.

Of course these people want to come to a country that has more opportunities, better living standards, ect, ect. But quit breeding your country into a constant state of poverty. They'll do the same here.

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:19 pm

In my opinion, it would be nice to see everybody who is active on this forum post a photo of themselves, like Wayne did, above. When we converse with another person, it is more meaningful - more informative and friendly - to see who the other person is. Does anybody agree with me?
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby webenda » Mon Jun 25, 2018 1:52 pm

In India 79.8% of the population practices Hinduism and 14.2% adheres to Islam, while the remaining 6% adheres to other religions (Christianity, Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism and various indigenous ethnically-bound faiths). Don't blame the Catholic church for India.

Indians from India are not an illegal immigration problem. Today, the majority of Indian immigrants are young and highly educated, and have strong English skills. Many work in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) fields. Indians from India are the top recipients of high-skilled H-1B temporary visas and are the second-largest group of international students in the United States.

The United States is only the third most popular destination for Indian migrants worldwide, after the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan. Other top destinations include Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, and the United Kingdom.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article ... ted-states

And one more thing... the Catholic Church is not against birth control. Where do you guys get your false information?
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/ ... th-control
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:13 pm

webenda wrote:...
Indians from India are not an illegal immigration problem. Today, the majority of Indian immigrants are young and highly educated, and have strong English skills. Many work in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) fields. Indians from India are the top recipients of high-skilled H-1B temporary visas and are the second-largest group of international students in the United States. ...

Exactly my impression of them, to which I would add they seem to be a people of great personal dignity, forthrightness, friendliness, conviviality, family togetherness, and integrity; at least, such have been the folks from India I have met and seen.
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby CWBurfle » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:31 pm

Indians from India are not an illegal immigration problem.

The vast majority of folks immigrating here from India are doing so legally. Before I retired a large number of folks from India were hired at my place of employment. Some were naturalized, some had green cards, and some had H1B visas. They were hard working, and pleasant folks. I became very friendly with several people who were not on my team.

All that written, these folks certainly did compete with US citizens for jobs, and did have an impact on salaries.

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby CWBurfle » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:34 pm

We could try this approach. If you cant feed them don't breed them. If the catholic church would preach and allow Birth control Just maybe some of these poorer countries would be less populated . Might cut down on kids having kids.

Why pick on the catholic church? How about all the folks here who are trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, and limit access to birth control?

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jun 25, 2018 2:36 pm

CWBurfle wrote:...... these folks certainly did compete with US citizens for jobs, and did have an impact on salaries.

Did you consider that competition and "impact on salaries" to be positive factors, CW ?
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby up148 » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:02 pm

webenda wrote:In India 79.8% of the population practices Hinduism and 14.2% adheres to Islam, while the remaining 6% adheres to other religions (Christianity, Sikhism, Buddhism, Jainism and various indigenous ethnically-bound faiths). Don't blame the Catholic church for India.

I wasn't inferring the Catholic religion created the population problem in India. I know it's a Hindu country. It's their Governments fault for the overpopulation.

Indians from India are not an illegal immigration problem. Today, the majority of Indian immigrants are young and highly educated, and have strong English skills. Many work in science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) fields. Indians from India are the top recipients of high-skilled H-1B temporary visas and are the second-largest group of international students in the United States.

Very true.

The United States is only the third most popular destination for Indian migrants worldwide, after the United Arab Emirates and Pakistan. Other top destinations include Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman, and the United Kingdom.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article ... ted-states

And one more thing... the Catholic Church is not against birth control. Where do you guys get your false information?
https://christianity.stackexchange.com/ ... th-control


[color=#FF0000]Cardinal Kasper is a liar and needs to run for politics as they twist the truth too!!!!!! If you consider abstaining from sex or monitoring your menstrual cycle as a good form of birth control, then you need to declare yourself a Catholic. Catholics are not allowed to use birth control pills, morning after pills, condoms or any other form of control that is not natural (read get lucky)[/color]

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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby PRR Man » Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:35 pm

the area I live in New Jersey has the largest concentration of immigrant Indians in the United States. I've seen them in action since they started to arrive in the mid 1980s. At that time it was a trip to do business with them, as according to them everything is negotiable, or so they thought.
It has become easier now that a generation has passed. Back then all their children wanted was to be like American kids and wear blue jeans. Parents held onto their old traditions. I imagine it wasn't easy being an Indian teenager.

For the most part they are industrious, intelligent people. But there are plenty of low class examples. Ones that take pride in lying through their teeth, or figuring a way to get something for nothing from you. Then crowing about it.
Ask anyone who commutes on the train in NJ how they like Indians. You may be shocked at the response. Apparently non-frequent personal grooming habits, rude behavior, particularly to women, seems to be the norm. More than once the wife has come home fuming, or wishing she had a charcoal filter mask.

There's also the larger, nearly unknown problem of many staying beyond their visas. At its end they simply disappear, hoping the Feds don't track them down. At least monthly there's a news story of one caught laundering money or committing fraud. Or the overcrowding of homes with extended families. Domiciles meant for 6-8 people housing 20.

I'm no Indian basher. I have very close friends from the sub continent and have had some very good clients as well. Just giving an insider's view.
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Mon Jun 25, 2018 5:53 pm

Eye-opening.
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Re: The invasion of North America

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 26, 2018 1:09 am

In Wayne's first post he made mention of the 17 year old that strapped on a load of marijuana and walked across the border into Arizona.

I just got through reading in our local news about 5 unattended children that were caught at the border. They had been recruited by MS-13 gang member and transported to the border by smugglers. The 5 had a combined total of 35 pounds of fentanyl on them.

Do you know how many people that 35 pounds of fentanyl can kill in this country....


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