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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:04 pm

chuck wrote:Font platform of a steam locomotive.

What????? :shock:

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby chuck » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:22 pm

They aren't the same photo, the original is in color, the one I posted is B&W and they may be slightly different perspectives and/or lenses.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Roy » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:27 pm

chuck wrote:Font platform of a steam locomotive.
webenda wrote:What????? :shock:

I think Chuck meant pilot deck. If so, I think he may be right. But the photo may be valid for only one locomotive, and then, maybe, only for a specific period of time. Murph better know what his picture subject is.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Wed Oct 17, 2018 9:44 pm

Roy wrote:
chuck wrote:Font platform of a steam locomotive.
webenda wrote:What????? :shock:

I think Chuck meant pilot deck. If so, I think he may be right. But the photo may be valid for only one locomotive, and then, maybe, only for a specific period of time. Murph better know what his picture subject is.

My "What?????" expressed amazement that Chuck recognized the locomotive as a Nickel Plate Road Berkshire so quickly, not what he called the area in the photograph. Murph has not been requiring an exact answer. As soon as one of us gets close he reveals the answer.

These were truly awesome engines. They were the first high speed (70 - 80 mph) freight engines. Here is Lima's A-1 demonstrator inside the Lima Scale House. Notice they are set up to measure the weight on all axles simultaneously instead of one at a time.

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Twenty of the "Berkshire" type locomotives exist today: 2 from the Pere Marquette, 6 from the Nickel Plate Road and 12 of the C & O's 2-8-4 locomotives, which they called "Kanawhas".
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby MurphOnMillerAve » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:17 pm

Here's your answer, gentlemen. :D
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby rogruth » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:31 pm

Wayne,
I think I know where several of the Berks are but would you please list all 20?
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:42 pm

Beautiful Murph.

From < https://www.steamlocomotive.com/locobas ... heel=2-8-4 >
This new 2-8-4 locomotive was sent to the Boston & Albany Railroad by Lima in the early spring of 1925 for tests on that railroad. In several test runs over a division of the railroad that crossed the Berkshire Hills, the demonstration locomotive, which carried road number "1" hauled up to 2500 tons. The most dramatic test occurred on April 14, 1925. A Class H-10, 2-8-2 "Mikado" type steamed eastbound from the Selkirk Yard pulling a 46 car, 1691 ton, train. About 47 minutes later the Class A-1 demonstrator led a 54 car, 2296 ton, in the same direction. The demonstrator Class A-1 arrived at North Adams Junction ten minutes ahead of the Class H-10. Soon after these impressive tests, the Boston & Albany ordered forty-five of these new locomotives. Being the first railroad to use this new wheel arrangement the B&A chose to call them "Berkshire" type.

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:51 pm

rogruth wrote:Wayne,
I think I know where several of the Berks are but would you please list all 20?


Let's see how direct plagiarism from www . steamlocomotive . com works.

No. Class F.M. Whyte Gauge Railroad Line Location Status Builder Info Notes
0) 1966 M-1 2-8-4 4'-8½" L&N Southeastern Railway Museum, Duluth, GA display tender only
1) 2707 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Illinois Railway Museum, Union, IL display ALCO (Schenectady) #70856, 1943 Once displayed in Brookside Park, Cleveland, OH
2) 765 S2 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL FWRHS, Edgerton Rd, New Haven, IN operational Lima #8673, 1944 Numbered 767 through 2016
3) 765A (1985) M-1 2-8-4 4'-8½" L&N FWRHS, Edgerton Rd, New Haven, IN auxiliary water tender tender only, from Kentucky Railway Museum, donated by CSX
4) 2789 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Hoosier Valley Railroad Museum, North Judson, IN cosmetic restoration ALCO (Schenectady) #75202, 1947
5) 2716 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Kentucky Railway Museum, New Haven, KY display ALCO (Schenectady) #70865, 1943 Once operated in the Norfolk Southern steam program and used by the Fort Wayne Railroad Historical Society in the 1990s. Apeared in Love Those Trains. Being prepped for restoration by the Kentucky Steam Heritage Corp.
6) 2705 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O B&O Railroad Museum, Baltimore, MD display ALCO (Schenectady) #70854, 1943 From Russell, KY
7) 1223 N-1 2-8-4 4'-8½" PM North Harbor Drive, Grand Haven, MI display Lima #7837, 1941
8 ) 1225 N-1 2-8-4 4'-8½" PM Steam Railroading Institute, A A Shops, Owosso, MI operational Lima #7839, 1941 Appeared in Polar Express movie
9) 2727 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Museum of Transportation, St. Louis, MO display ALCO (Schenectady) #70876, 1944
10) 755 S2 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL Conneaut Station, Conneaut, OH display Lima #8663, 1944
11) 2700 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Dennison Railroad Depot Museum, Dennison, OH restoration ALCO (Schenectady) #70849, 1943 cosmetic restoration
12) 779 S3 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL Lincoln Park, Lima, OH display Lima #9380, 1949 Last steam locomotive built by Lima
13) 763 S-22 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL Age of Steam Roundhouse, Sugarcreek, OH display Lima #8671, 1944 Acquired by N&W in 1964 when NKP merged; to Wasena Park in Roanoke in 1966 for display; to Virginia Museum of Transportation; purchased by Jerry Jacobson in 2007
14) 2776 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Jesse Eyman Park, Washington Court House, OH display ALCO (Schenectady) #75189, 1947
15) 759 S2 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL Steamtown National Historic Site, Scranton, PA display Lima #8667, 1944 Operated excursions in the 1960s and 1970s
16) 757 S2 2-8-4 4'-8½" NYC&StL Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania, Strasburg, PA display Lima #8665, 1944 To be moved to Bellevue, OH for display
17) 2760 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Treasure Island Road, Lynchburg, VA display ALCO (Schenectady) #75173, 1947
18) 2756 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Huntington Park, Newport News, VA display Lima #9263, 1947
19) 2732 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Science Museum of Virginia, Richmond, VA display ALCO (Schenectady) #70881, 1944
20) 2736 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O National Railroad Museum, Green Bay, WI display ALCO (Schenectady) #70885, 08/1944
21) 2755 K-4 2-8-4 4'-8½" C&O Chief Logan State Park, Logan, WV display Lima #9262, 1947 Placed on the National Register of Historical Places on Sep 28, 2006


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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Wed Oct 17, 2018 11:44 pm

Bob Turner once showed is his Southern Pacific Berkshire.

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I thought it was imaginary but looking for a photo of the elusive SP Berkshire I found this picture taken in Bakersfield, California in 1950:
With the tender Bob used.
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With a coal tender and feed water heater.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby Roy » Thu Oct 18, 2018 12:07 am

According to these guys: http://espee.railfan.net/sp_steam_berkshire.html S.P. bought ten Berks from the Boston & Maine in 1945.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby rogruth » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:03 am

Wayne,
Thanks for the list.
The first on the list states "tender only".
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby webenda » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:34 pm

rogruth wrote:Wayne,
Thanks for the list.
The first on the list states "tender only".

Indeed, that is why it is number zero on the list of engines, no engine.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby rogruth » Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:51 pm

webenda wrote:
rogruth wrote:Wayne,
Thanks for the list.
The first on the list states "tender only".

Indeed, that is why it is number zero on the list of engines, no engine.

Right again, Wayne. Eyes are not improving.
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Re: Whatzit?

Postby healey36 » Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:10 am

rogruth wrote:Wayne,
Thanks for the list.
The first on the list states "tender only".

They must have bought it off of eBay...

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Re: Whatzit?

Postby rogruth » Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:00 am

healey36 wrote:
rogruth wrote:Wayne,
Thanks for the list.
The first on the list states "tender only".

They must have bought it off of eBay...

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