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BB-40-2

Postby ScaleCraft » Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:27 pm

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https://trainspo.com/photo/14105/

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31f3Ordsi5o

Just an oddity I ran across. Video shows it ain't just one, and the six wheel units moving in the rear show the concept is not specifically driven by a flexibility move to B-B setup versus C trucks.
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby E7 » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:00 pm

Just more of an ugly locomotive. What did they do on that big porch.....eat lunch?

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:11 pm

E7 wrote:What did they do on that big porch.....eat lunch?


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Re: BB-40-2

Postby rex desilets » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:31 pm

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby rogruth » Fri Jan 03, 2020 9:41 pm

New ones to me.
Who made them and where are they used?
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby big bad jim » Fri Jan 03, 2020 10:49 pm

Roger,
The units are ex-EMD sd40-2's and sd40t-2's. They've been modified for narrow guage (meter guage I think) operations in South America. Part of the exercise is to add axles, to reduce loads, and part is usually to also reduce height for clearances. There are lots of ex-North American EMD and GE products adapted to narrow guage operations in South America.

Some units have shorter fuel tanks, to make room for the additional truck length. Others, like the sd40-2 variants, have had their frames lengthened to maintain the fuel tank size while adding room for the trucks. That's why the front and rear porches are so long.

Often, the fans are recessed into the roof, or moved elsewhere. The sd40t-2, exemplified by the ex-DRGW unit, has had the dynamic brake grids and fans moved into the cavity at the rear of the carbody where the screens for the radiator air intake are located. The radiator fans themselves are already located inside the carbody on the tunnel motor locos, so they do not need to be moved.

Note the horn located on the face of the cab, which is another modification for clearance.

There is a fellow out on the west coast somewhere, named Edson Yamazaki, who models quite a few of the South American prototypes, including the bb40t-2.

https://pbase.com/tracktime/image/150961381

https://pbase.com/tracktime/image/150961380

https://pbase.com/tracktime/image/150961395

Yes, those are 4-axle EMD trucks on that sd45. The problem isn't the wheelbase, but rather the axle loading.

Jim

P.s. They may need to clear off the roof to allow for the increase in top of rail to top of deck due to adding in a span bolster between the trucks. Not sure about that, but it makes at least a little bit of sense.

P.p.s. Lots of photos at the following link. There are some models that were built new by EMD apparently, and many more that are rebuilds. If you scroll down to the Rebuilt EMD section, you can find many more photos, including markups on modifications, as well as photos of the various changes during and after rebuilding.

http://pedrop.rrpicturearchives.net/modelList.aspx

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby rogruth » Fri Jan 03, 2020 11:19 pm

As I said, I was not familiar with these. I'm pretty much limited to U.S./ North American locos and railroads.
Thanks much, Jim.
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby E7 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:08 am

Jim, Thanks! Very interesting.

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 04, 2020 12:56 am

Railroading in South America is fascinating. Here is another B-B truck arrangement.

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Video: https://youtu.be/VBVZG5Gugkk
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:00 am

In case you did not know, Vitória, Brazil is a seaport were the iron ore is transferred to ore ships.

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:14 am

Where in the world is the ship in the photo (Sea Tubarao) now?

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby webenda » Sat Jan 04, 2020 1:17 am

How much does an ore ship sink when it is loaded?
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby up148 » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:51 am

I've always loved the UP's SD40-2's with the "snoot" nose. OMI produced these and they are rare. AS silly as this loco may look, I like it. It needs the 117" nose EMD put on the "snoots" and it would look more balanced. The SD-40-2 "Snoot" is what brought me back into modeling in 1975 when I saw a brace of them idling in Kearney, NE on my 1st trip up to meet the in-laws. Still have faded polaroid photos as I had to get out and take some photos, which made my wife look at me like I had horns on my head. The only modern diesel that has ever caught my eye.

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Re: BB-40-2

Postby ScaleCraft » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:24 pm

You could see the dual gauge trackage in some of the stuff I posted. What's odd is the lack of athwartships overhang. I wonder if the narrowed the cab and possibly hood.
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Re: BB-40-2

Postby bob turner » Sat Jan 04, 2020 8:06 pm

Most likely the truck castings are one piece, and they just narrowed the wheelsets.

My neighbor, Murray Penhollow (RIP) was from Kearney.

I remember seeing the "snoots" in Ogallala, after escaping from Denver Stapleton. They weren't going to let me go - no transponder - but they let me in that morning. I twisted some arms. Camped out on the Ogallala airport. Snoots all night long.


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