Bernie Sanders:

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From the BBC. Interesting. You can draw your own conclusions.....

Bernie Sanders: 17 things the Democratic front-runner believes
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35364868

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Jane Fonda is throwing her support behind Bernie Sanders in the 2020 presidential race due to his position on climate change.

What a surprise, another limousine liberal for Socialism...

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Jane Fonda is throwing her support behind Bernie Sanders in the 2020 presidential race due to his position on climate change.

What a surprise, another limousine liberal for Socialism...

Yes, but. Wouldn't a wealthy person abjure sharing their wealth? (Socialism.)

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Jane Fonda is throwing her support behind Bernie Sanders in the 2020 presidential race due to his position on climate change.

What a surprise, another limousine liberal for Socialism...

Yes, but. Wouldn't a wealthy person abjure sharing their wealth? (Socialism.)

Well, no. It seems that the majority of the targeted billionaires really don't have anywhere as big of problem with all this as it's being played up to be. Yes, there are a few that are running about hands in the air screaming. Curious though if Bernie accepts any of her money....

Hilarious that he's constantly harping about the other candidates using other people's money and rich donors, etc. (Ok Bloomberg used his own which I actually approve of....), but Bernie is still running using everyone else's money. He's very careful not to let that bit of info out - he's just as bad as all the rest turning a blind eye to the fact the others are funding his campaign. He's got money - how much his own is on the line????

And no not a fan of Bernie - I think he's totally duplicitous and knows all too well that the numbers he's spouting make no sense......not that anyone else's numbers make a lot of sense either,

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What makes you think he is going to share HIS wealth? As for Fonda, they should deport her to Vietnam.

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What makes you think he is going to share HIS wealth?

Good point! There was one candidate a few weeks ago who pointed out that everyone else on the stage was a millionaire or better.,,,,,and they all ducked and ran.

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Many of these candidates seem to have missed the idea that if you let enough 3rd world country people in your country, you become a 3rd world country. They also can't seem to understand the concept of ILLEGAL.

They don't seem to realize that a lot of these people are the lowest common denominator of the population where they are coming from. They are not going to enhance any society except the one they are exiting.

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More people wont make you a 3rd world country. No sewer, no hospitals. no electric, no paved roads and no education system will make yo a 3rd world country. I'm with you on the illegal part. Philadelphia will let anybody vote.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

They don't seem to realize that a lot of these people are the lowest common denominator of the population where they are coming from. They are not going to enhance any society except the one they are exiting.

Except that's not altogether true. A lot are not the low end from their home country; a lot of pretty high end professionals that just want to get out of from wherever they are now - our immigration systems are broken. Lumping everyone into the same labeled group is what politicians do to incite reactions that are totally irrational. They'd rather get your vote than actually do anything to fix this problem.

Also, that low end denominator is comprised of the people that do a lot of the work that our own citizens refuse to do. Without these people, this country would probably starve - we know how to buy food, but few have any clue how to grow anything and survive on it.

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Also, that low end denominator is comprised of the people that do a lot of the work that our own citizens refuse to do. Without these people, this country would probably starve - we know how to buy food, but few have any clue how to grow anything and survive on it.

Very true and they will work for a lot less money than those who don't want to do the work keeping the wages down and the food cheaper. Some are even subsidized by those that won't do the work.

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Also, that low end denominator is comprised of the people that do a lot of the work that our own citizens refuse to do. Without these people, this country would probably starve - we know how to buy food, but few have any clue how to grow anything and survive on it.

Very true and they will work for a lot less money than those who don't want to do the work keeping the wages down and the food cheaper. Some are even subsidized by those that won't do the work.

And maybe that's part of the real problem - all those dipwads complaining that immigrants are taking the jobs that they wouldn't do anyway. Maybe we need to trade those gits for people that want to work and get stuff instead of sitting around complaining.

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Except that's not altogether true. A lot are not the low end from their home country; a lot of pretty high end professionals that just want to get out of from wherever they are now - our immigration systems are broken. Lumping everyone into the same labeled group is what politicians do to incite reactions that are totally irrational. They'd rather get your vote than actually do anything to fix this problem.

Also, that low end denominator is comprised of the people that do a lot of the work that our own citizens refuse to do. Without these people, this country would probably starve - we know how to buy food, but few have any clue how to grow anything and survive on it.

Congratulations on insulting every person who ever immigrated to this country legally! I also suspect that it's a pretty safe bet that the people you are referring to are more involved in harvesting than growing. Aside from that, how are all those high end folks piling up down there going to help us grow anything? Immigration may be broken, but letting anyone who wants to become a citizen just waltz across the border ain't working either (reread that first sentence). Maybe you should take a look at the meaning of ILLEGAL.

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Except that's not altogether true. A lot are not the low end from their home country; a lot of pretty high end professionals that just want to get out of from wherever they are now - our immigration systems are broken. Lumping everyone into the same labeled group is what politicians do to incite reactions that are totally irrational. They'd rather get your vote than actually do anything to fix this problem.

Also, that low end denominator is comprised of the people that do a lot of the work that our own citizens refuse to do. Without these people, this country would probably starve - we know how to buy food, but few have any clue how to grow anything and survive on it.

Congratulations on insulting every person who ever immigrated to this country legally! I also suspect that it's a pretty safe bet that the people you are referring to are more involved in harvesting than growing. Aside from that, how are all those high end folks piling up down there going to help us grow anything? Immigration may be broken, but letting anyone who wants to become a citizen just waltz across the border ain't working either (reread that first sentence). Maybe you should take a look at the meaning of ILLEGAL.

Not at all. We have far too many people not willing to do a day's work. When I had to hand out checks to "workers" and "laborers" that spent the day doing nothing on the job site I learned a long time ago that those legal immigrants and citizens collecting checks were contributing just about zilch. Get paid a 1/2 day's wages for showing up and leaning on a rake and a full day's wages for just being on site for 4 hours. Yup. Who's getting insulted there - the folks paying the bills. I guess you just want what Bernie wants - free money and everything else for everyone.

In the meantime, fix the broken immigration system w/o all the BS politics.

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Good, bad or ugly, we have enough immigrants. And allowing anyone to enter illegally is just wrong for any reason. I doubt the high end professional are crossing the border illegally. We have more people in this country than we can handle now and taxing all our systems as it is.

Lazy, productive or whatever...we need to raise the bar for those who have been here, born here more than a few decades ago after parents snuck in, and see if we can do something other than promise free everything to citizens, which doesn't fix the problem.

Close the borders, get rid of illegals, train blacks, whites and all others who came here legally to be self supportive and productive and quit letting the bleeding hearts destroy our country. Everyone talked about "tough love" a few decades ago as solutions for many problems and I think that is where we are on illegal immigration. If we try to save the world, we will destroy all that has been accomplished in hundreds of years of existence. And, if think that's really going to happen, then come around tonight and watch monkeys fly out my +ss.

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Good, bad or ugly, we have enough immigrants. And allowing anyone to enter illegally is just wrong for any reason. I doubt the high end professional are crossing the border illegally. We have more people in this country than we can handle now and taxing all our systems as it is.

They are coming in legally and not leaving. A lot are paying taxes. Trump's chef was on TV the other night - illegal alien that been here for years paying taxes..... Being here illegally does not automatically equate to not contributing. Some are probably more honest about their taxes that citizens ,

Lazy, productive or whatever...we need to raise the bar for those who have been here, born here more than a few decades ago after parents snuck in, and see if we can do something other than promise free everything to citizens, which doesn't fix the problem.

Close the borders, get rid of illegals, train blacks, whites and all others who came here legally to be self supportive and productive and quit letting the bleeding hearts destroy our country. Everyone talked about "tough love" a few decades ago as solutions for many problems and I think that is where we are on illegal immigration.

That's all good. Have to tear out the existing systems that are failures and replace them with something far more streamlined and capable of being functional. Still have to figure out who's a contributing positively immigrant, etc. As with all Gov't run processes, poorly done.

If we try to save the world, we will destroy all that has been accomplished in hundreds of years of existence. And, if think that's really going to happen, then come around tonight and watch monkeys fly out my +ss.

Sell tickets! You could seriously supplement your retirement with that kind of show on YouTube!