What's happening to large cities

[robert.]

Very sad when people cant see the faults in both sides. Its an impotent point of view to be a card carrying member of either side. Nancy and don will have you both fight it out for the next few years. While they push it up your backside!!! Keep voting for the same old BS.
Anybody see the 70 year old man get decked in Buffalo NY. Civilization is crumpling right in front of your eyes.

[HONDO74]

Saturday 6-6-2020 should be an interesting day for the country that was know as The United States Of America

The nation’s capital is bracing for what could be its largest protest yet on Saturday since the death of George Floyd, expanding a massive fenced perimeter around the White House, even as they send home hundreds of active-duty troops who were stationed outside the city.

Over 10 days of protest, the border outside the White House has progressively been pushed back with extensive fencing and barricades. It now extends to the far outskirts of a park complex known as the Ellipse near the National Mall.

Law enforcement officials said they’d pushed the barrier back even further in anticipation of a major event on Saturday.

It was not clear how many would show up to Saturday’s demonstrations but #1MillionDCSaturday was trending on Twitter in a call for 1 million people to march on the capital in protest of police brutality.

At the same time, Mayor Muriel Bowser wants all non-D.C.troops out of the city. All 900 active duty military police brought to bases around Washington, D.C., following the civil unrest after Floyd’s death are heading home, the Department of Defense said Friday.

The troops were staging in the Washington, D.C., area at Maryland's Andrews Air Force Base and Virginia's Fort Belvoir as President Trump said he may use the military to help quell violence and looting.

Trump would have to invoke the Insurrection Act of 1807 in order to take such measures, as military involvement with domestic law enforcement is generally prohibited. The last time the Insurrection Act was used was in 1992 during the riots in Los Angeles that followed the acquittal of four police officers charged in the beating of black motorist Rodney King.

[HONDO74]

Anybody see the 70 year old man get decked in Buffalo NY. Civilization is crumpling right in front of your eyes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52945190

I have watched that video at least 20 times. I can't figure out what he thought he was doing and why. He has what looks like a cell phone in his right hand waving it in front of the police and touches one of them with it and the cop shoves him away and he falls on his butt and bust his head. It happen real fast.

You have to see it in slow motion and stop action.

I'm not justifying any police action. They are supposedly investigating it now.

So the end result now is 2 police are suspended and the rest that were part of a riot team have all resigned in protest.

[HONDO74]

Protesting around the world. It's not just this country that has a problem,

Indigenous deaths in custody: Why Australians are seizing on US protests
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-52900929

Anger over the death of George Floyd has spread to Australia, with Black Lives Matter protests being held across the country.

But Australian demonstrators are not just expressing solidarity. Many are using the moment to vent fury about indigenous deaths in custody in Australia. So what is the situation?
How many indigenous Australians have died in custody?

Almost three decades on from a major inquiry into this issue, there is no easily accessible record.

In 1987, the Committee to Defend Black Rights found that one indigenous person was dying in custody every 11 days. It spurred a royal commission, completed in 1991, which investigated the incarceration of Aboriginal people and the circumstances of 99 deaths.

[HONDO74]

There's nothing peaceful about what is going on in this country. The so-called media refer to this as peaceful assembly when in fact the "lawful assembly"is a cover for massive looting and in fact the police are standing down in many places because they are told to do so. Fan the flames/the revolution is in progress under the banner of "peaceful demonstrations". The other part of this is the so-called demonstrators are looting and destroying many of the businesses in their own communities but that is excused because they are angry, And the pols will let all the wrongfully convicted out of jail.

Just replace the police with the looters and rioters then racism is solved.

[MurphOnMillerAve]

... Anybody see the 70 year old man get decked in Buffalo NY. Civilization is crumpling right in front of your eyes.

Our version of it appears to be. That 75 yr old thin man couldn't have been just brushed aside or walked passed?

However, personally, that is not the moment I would have chosen to walk up to a moving contingency of police. It's been said "there is no fool like an old fool," yet, perhaps some patient dismissal, at that moment, on the part of the police involved, might have been wiser.

[robert.]

I can teach anyone to put a person on their knees. Pain free if the person moves. If they resist. A little more pressure and the person thinks they are going to get a spiral fracture in their forearm . all this with about the same energy it takes to fly a drone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOYmSo9XigM

[MurphOnMillerAve]

I learned in the classroom that absolutely everything does not have to be a confrontation. Some questions can be solved/addressed in myriad other ways. I think we were all surprised when we saw that old man being flattened because, among several factors, we expect some better judgement and wiser conduct from the elderly, since they have been around for quite some time and have seen plenty.

I hope some enterprising reporter gets to ask him what he was seeking and what he was thinking by walking up to the police at that moment there.

[robert.]

What if he had fear and confusion? There wad an angry mob behind him. He approached law enforcement for help. I hope rev. Al helps this man.

[HONDO74]

What if he had fear and confusion? There wad an angry mob behind him. He approached law enforcement for help. I hope rev. Al helps this man.

Robert, There are a lot of what if's going on out there right now and I can't trust the media to tell an honest story without it being slanted with their agenda.

You have an angry mob that is rioting and throwing all kinds of objects at the police. You have this riot trained police force that were told to clear the area. Murphy's law.... if something can go wrong it will.

I know one thing for sure. This old boy ain't going any wheres near any of this. Innocent bystanders get killed all the time and might get my car torched with me in it.

[HONDO74]

Byron Brown, the mayor of Buffalo, N.Y., said Friday the 75-year-old man who was shoved to the ground by two cops the previous day was an “agitator” who had been asked to leave the area “numerous” times.

The officers have been suspended without pay and an internal affairs investigation launched after the incident was caught on video and showed the man, Matin Gugino, bleeding on the sidewalk. Gov. Andrew Cuomo said the video made him “sick to my stomach”. The officers are expected to be charged with assault Saturday morning, according to WKBW Buffalo.

[Neil]

Certainly looks like thoughtless, perhaps unintentional use of unnecessary force. They gave him a pretty good shove. He is large, but skinny and ancient. They did not seem to have any cause for such use of force, which I'm sure turned out much worse than they expected. They clearly were irritated with him approaching them, and he was an idiot for doing so, obviously. But being stupid isn't being criminal.

[HONDO74]

Certainly looks like thoughtless, perhaps unintentional use of unnecessary force. They gave him a pretty good shove. He is large, but skinny and ancient. They did not seem to have any cause for such use of force, which I'm sure turned out much worse than they expected. They clearly were irritated with him approaching them, and he was an idiot for doing so, obviously. But being stupid isn't being criminal.

I don't know what the old man has in his had that he shoved at the officer, but he did touch the officer with it when he got shoved away. Since he touched the officer with it that could be considered assault of a police officer on his part.

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"But being stupid isn't being criminal"

No but is does have consequences. We see people doing stupid things all the time and they get killed. It's called a Darwin award

Seen another video of one of the rioters throwing a gas bomb and some of the gas got on the person and lit him up.

[ScaleCraft]

Anybody see the 70 year old man get decked in Buffalo NY. Civilization is crumpling right in front of your eyes.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52945190

I have watched that video at least 20 times. I can't figure out what he thought he was doing and why. He has what looks like a cell phone in his right hand waving it in front of the police and touches one of them with it and the cop shoves him away and he falls on his butt and bust his head. It happen real fast.

You have to see it in slow motion and stop action.

I'm not justifying any police action. They are supposedly investigating it now.

So the end result now is 2 police are suspended and the rest that were part of a riot team have all resigned in protest.

I'm spitting distance on age. I have read several reports, trying to get a view from various slants on this.

Announced curfew of that area. Lots of time to clear out. Cops come into play to clear, as directed by local governments. Guy in a place nobody but lawbreakers should be (curfew, remember?) and approaches cops.

Going to be interesting to watch how this plays out.

[HONDO74]

Venice Italy. A little bit of humor.....

Tubby tourists force Venice gondoliers to slim down numbers
https://news.yahoo.com/tubby-tourists-f ... 24488.html

Rome (AFP) - Venice is reducing the number of tourists its gondolas can carry, because so many are overweight they dangerously lower the boats in the water, a gondolier association told AFP Wednesday.

The city of canals is cutting the number of passengers allowed to board from six at a time to five, to stop water dangerously slopping over the sides of the famous slim vessels, said Roberto Luppi, former head of the Venice Gondoliers association.

"Going forward with over half a ton of meat on board is dangerous," he said......