Crazy!

[ScaleCraft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-O-Scale ... 3615036428
Gotta dig on this one. Six wheel equal spaced sideframes....but the axles aren't. Three rail Lionel F-5 trucks, modified to two rail. Idler wheelsets at the end. Very odd looking. Must be a reason for the red paint on one side of the power bricks.
Tin sides? And they want $216.74 plus shipping?
Gotta open another bottle.

They got the "custom" part right. They do not reveal if it runs or not.

[E7]

Ooooooooh my most unfavorite! PC with the copulating worms logo. My bidding finger is twitching.....NOT!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

They do not reveal if it runs or not.

They used to routinely state "unknown" or "untested" -- this listing there's nothing at all.

Does this stuff ever sell?

[ScaleCraft]

They do not reveal if it runs or not.

They used to routinely state "unknown" or "untested" -- this listing there's nothing at all.

Does this stuff ever sell?

'swhat I'm sayin'. They seem to have grown an arrogance extension of late. Take horribly dark and poor photos, don't reveal running or not, or even not tested, don't clean the moss off, and ask over two hundred clams for a cardstock? Vinyl? Wood? E-something, unpowered?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

They do not reveal if it runs or not.

They used to routinely state "unknown" or "untested" -- this listing there's nothing at all.

Does this stuff ever sell?

'swhat I'm sayin'. They seem to have grown an arrogance extension of late. Take horribly dark and poor photos, don't reveal running or not, or even not tested, don't clean the moss off, and ask over two hundred clams for a cardstock? Vinyl? Wood? E-something, unpowered?

Lazier than ever doing a volume business on a fishing expedition.

[De Bruin]

.....Does this stuff ever sell?

Apparently so, recently for example the bronze chassis GP with the Lionel shell, the Penn Erie hi-nosed U boat both went for approximately around the same give or take $50. Carey scored a five Alexander lw passenger set for about $34 a car. Furthermore a lot of these nominally over-priced weird items move after one or two negligible price reductions. I'd say they know their market better then we do more often than not or this wouldn't persist, wood folk art E units notwithstanding. Aesthetics being subjective my opinion is the A&S B unit is interesting enough despite the incorrect road# and the likelihood the E7B's didn't lasting long enough after 2-68 to get re-painted into this specific worm scheme applied to a lot of the F7's.

[bob turner]

Doesn't look like Adams to me. And the power units have to be from a Trainmaster or Alco.

Looking forward to more photos from your shop. How is the Erie-Built progressing?

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Furthermore a lot of these nominally over-priced weird items move after one or two negligible price reductions.

I have noticed that happening - seems some of these items gather quite an audience, too!

[De Bruin]

Bob, you'll need to ask Jim about the Erie Built, currently he's still working on the PA casting.
The only thing going on in my shop currently is disassembling and stripping those cast diesels donated to the RMCA, starting a CGW passenger train project and refurbishing some old freight cars which I intend to finish in NdeM/FCP for my next freight train project.
I'm out of work these days so the time is there.

........ seems some of these items gather quite an audience, too!

Yes apparently, demand for these older models seems to wax and wane, but currently seems to be growing slightly. I credit Jim's column and some of the recent strings on OGR.

[ScaleCraft]

Doesn't look like Adams to me. And the power units have to be from a Trainmaster or Alco.

Looking forward to more photos from your shop. How is the Erie-Built progressing?

I'd have to go downstairs and flip a Trainmaster, but like I said in first post, those appear to be classic F-5 (half chicken wire, half louvers) Lionel trucks, up through, what 1953? The end axles just ride in the sideframes, hence the mismatch of center axle centerline to sideframe journals.

IF they kept the horizontal motors from the Lionel, they are field wound, so rectumfriers.

Value that may have been there for parts is gone, can't hardly, cost effectively, back-convert to three rail bricks. And you'll never, ever fix the spacing.

[bob turner]

I was looking at the body mostly. It has a few earmarks of the Adams variety, but if it is cast, it does not look like their normal E7 bodies. I am going to guess not Adams. Take your word on the trucks. Hard to see.

I am actually pretty picky when it comes to doorstops. My E7s all have either cast sides with cast in detail, or sheet sides with soldered on rivet strips. My FA/FB collection is all from the latest patterns with rivet detail, as are my FTs. And most of you know how the Erie Built turned out - almost as good as a plastic Atlas, but in bronze,with B-17 windows.

I regard the all cast CLW PAs as more accurate than the later etched variety by an order of magnitude!

I suppose my most primitive doorstops are the Parmelee & Sturges and Icken/Alexander units. I would do a photo essay, but . . .

[E7]

I was looking through a back issue of OST (one of Maroon's articles) and I think Adams FT casting might be the best of their diseasels. Opinion of course. There was a shot of an Ontario and Western "A" painted by Ed Bommer that really looked good.

[bob turner]

There were several versions. Best of the lot was the one with rivets. 17/64 scale. Some of the Exacta were worse than that E8.

[De Bruin]

I agree,the Adams FT is a decent model, certainly better then the Wentzco's.
Jim and I are colluding over the best way to power and finish an ABBA set of them.
I'm leaning hard into the early WP "Christmas Tree" scheme.

[ScaleCraft]

I was looking at the body mostly. It has a few earmarks of the Adams variety, but if it is cast, it does not look like their normal E7 bodies. I am going to guess not Adams. Take your word on the trucks. Hard to see.

I am actually pretty picky when it comes to doorstops. My E7s all have either cast sides with cast in detail, or sheet sides with soldered on rivet strips. My FA/FB collection is all from the latest patterns with rivet detail, as are my FTs. And most of you know how the Erie Built turned out - almost as good as a plastic Atlas, but in bronze,with B-17 windows.

I regard the all cast CLW PAs as more accurate than the later etched variety by an order of magnitude!

I suppose my most primitive doorstops are the Parmelee & Sturges and Icken/Alexander units. I would do a photo essay, but . . .

If we're still talking about the evilbait link at the top of this page:

Lionel power bricks, 2-railed.
Tin or equally thin sides.

I lightened a photo and sent it to you direct so you can see.