P5a
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P5a
Gotta be the first cast bronze one I have ever seen. Prolly old hat to one or two of you. Can motor, open gearbox, not sure I like the looseness of the chain drives, but what is, is.
Hard to tell size, but looks like the entire bottom, oh, 7/16" of the shell is separate, flathead slot countersunk screws holding that part up to the main shell.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cast-Bronze-O- ... 2833255010
Kinda plain end beams, BIG gap (opening) in shell skirt above end beams, shell is split up the middle for a bit.
Seeing 100% brass underneath, I wonder if this isn't brass painted bronze?
Walthers end trucks?
Just conversation.
Hard to tell size, but looks like the entire bottom, oh, 7/16" of the shell is separate, flathead slot countersunk screws holding that part up to the main shell.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cast-Bronze-O- ... 2833255010
Kinda plain end beams, BIG gap (opening) in shell skirt above end beams, shell is split up the middle for a bit.
Seeing 100% brass underneath, I wonder if this isn't brass painted bronze?
Walthers end trucks?
Just conversation.
Dave....gone by invitation
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bob turner
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Re: P5a
You made me look. Allan Wehrle and I were working on the boxy version, then he gave up his foundry and moved to the city. This one has been on the bay for about a month - probably bead blasted prior to the photo shoot. I would love to find a box version to match my Icken O1a.cf
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J. S. Bach
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Re: P5a
I am thinking cast aluminum; two half-shells attached together. I once had a pair of cast Al GG1 sides that I ended up trading to someone for a Quality Craft ATSF 86 foot Hi-cube boxcar kit that I assembled; I think that I got the better half of that deal as I still have the boxcar.
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Carey Williams
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Re: P5a
Hello all ....it is an odd duck .... I've not seen any "period" mention of such a beast ... it is way too clean ... for proper "ancient" labeling ..... did Locomotive Workshop offer such an animal ?
Cheers Carey
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Re: P5a
I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. It also gives you a lot of unhealthy coping mechanisms, trust issues, and a dark sense of humor.
Re: P5a
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............
Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock of seeing a shiny door stop. Lightly slap yourself on the temple and chant: "No No No No No" until the feeling dissipates.
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Re: P5a
E7 wrote:Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............
Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock of seeing a shiny door stop. Lightly slap yourself on the temple and chant: "No No No No No" until the feeling dissipates.
Perhaps.
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. It also gives you a lot of unhealthy coping mechanisms, trust issues, and a dark sense of humor.
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bob turner
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Re: P5a
"Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock . . ."
Come, now. Liberals are very sensitive, and can get hurt feelings easily.
One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"
I am anything but shut-in. I fly every damn day, although I am not doing students because of Covid risk, real or perceived. And I am assembling a Dockside and an FF2 in my evening relaxation sessions. I do like the P5a, but so far have only one - the streamlined MTH. It is an ok model, although the screens are inset too far.
This doorstop version is outside any doorstop desires I may have. My GG1 fleet is similar, but with mostly Wolfer trucks, putting them on the margins of doorstopism.
Come, now. Liberals are very sensitive, and can get hurt feelings easily.
One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"
I am anything but shut-in. I fly every damn day, although I am not doing students because of Covid risk, real or perceived. And I am assembling a Dockside and an FF2 in my evening relaxation sessions. I do like the P5a, but so far have only one - the streamlined MTH. It is an ok model, although the screens are inset too far.
This doorstop version is outside any doorstop desires I may have. My GG1 fleet is similar, but with mostly Wolfer trucks, putting them on the margins of doorstopism.
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Re: P5a
bob turner wrote:One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"
She should have run him over. Claim defending herself from being endangered by a total A-hole
What doesn’t kill you makes you stronger. It also gives you a lot of unhealthy coping mechanisms, trust issues, and a dark sense of humor.
Re: P5a
bob turner wrote:"Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock . . ."
Come, now. Liberals are very sensitive, and can get hurt feelings easily.
One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"
Take note of the hyphen. The "Turner" indicates the Doorstop affliction and the Covoid part is indicative of the times. No malice was intended.....well, maybe just a smidgeon....
Your lady friend should have popped that Bozo a good one.
Bill Wolfer....Got any good stories about him? Never had the pleasure of meeting Bill. I was fortunate enough to chat with Ed Duddy a couple times at TCA York.
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bob turner
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Re: P5a
Yes, and no. I think I met him in the 1950s in Phillie when Bill Thomas took me on a tour. I definitely met him in Orange County about 20 years ago, but the only story I might have is that he had a 9" South Bend lathe - something I had lusted after since high school. I managed to get one a few years ago - what a beautiful machine.
Bill did the trucks for the GG1, the FF2, and maybe the E44. So far I have not seen the E44. I think he did etchings for that, as well. Also, he was somewhat famous for passenger cars.
That is the totality of my Wolfer knowledge.
Bill did the trucks for the GG1, the FF2, and maybe the E44. So far I have not seen the E44. I think he did etchings for that, as well. Also, he was somewhat famous for passenger cars.
That is the totality of my Wolfer knowledge.
Re: P5a
bob turner wrote:Bill did the trucks for the GG1, the FF2, and maybe the E44. So far I have not seen the E44. I think he did etchings for that, as well. Also, he was somewhat famous for passenger cars.
That is the totality of my Wolfer knowledge.
The story I've heard/read on the passenger cars is that in some of them he installed a rabbit as a passenger for certain customers. He was history by the time I owned anything O scale.
There is a thread on the E44 on OGR. Looks like a fairly nice engine to me.
https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/prr ... 5175880806
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