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P5a

Postby ScaleCraft » Sat Jul 25, 2020 2:20 pm

Gotta be the first cast bronze one I have ever seen. Prolly old hat to one or two of you. Can motor, open gearbox, not sure I like the looseness of the chain drives, but what is, is.
Hard to tell size, but looks like the entire bottom, oh, 7/16" of the shell is separate, flathead slot countersunk screws holding that part up to the main shell.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Cast-Bronze-O- ... 2833255010

Kinda plain end beams, BIG gap (opening) in shell skirt above end beams, shell is split up the middle for a bit.
Seeing 100% brass underneath, I wonder if this isn't brass painted bronze?

Walthers end trucks?

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Re: P5a

Postby E7 » Sat Jul 25, 2020 7:06 pm

Way too clean looking! I'm appalled! :mrgreen:

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Re: P5a

Postby bob turner » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:25 pm

You made me look. Allan Wehrle and I were working on the boxy version, then he gave up his foundry and moved to the city. This one has been on the bay for about a month - probably bead blasted prior to the photo shoot. I would love to find a box version to match my Icken O1a.cf
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Re: P5a

Postby J. S. Bach » Sat Jul 25, 2020 8:27 pm

I am thinking cast aluminum; two half-shells attached together. I once had a pair of cast Al GG1 sides that I ended up trading to someone for a Quality Craft ATSF 86 foot Hi-cube boxcar kit that I assembled; I think that I got the better half of that deal as I still have the boxcar.

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Re: P5a

Postby Carey Williams » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:24 pm

Hello all ....it is an odd duck .... I've not seen any "period" mention of such a beast ... it is way too clean ... for proper "ancient" labeling ..... did Locomotive Workshop offer such an animal ?

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Re: P5a

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:13 am

I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............
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Re: P5a

Postby E7 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:58 am

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............


Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock of seeing a shiny door stop. Lightly slap yourself on the temple and chant: "No No No No No" until the feeling dissipates.

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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jul 27, 2020 10:02 am

E7 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:I sort of like it and I'm not sure why....... Hmmmmmm.............


Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock of seeing a shiny door stop. Lightly slap yourself on the temple and chant: "No No No No No" until the feeling dissipates.


Perhaps.
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Re: P5a

Postby bob turner » Mon Jul 27, 2020 1:58 pm

"Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock . . ."

Come, now. Liberals are very sensitive, and can get hurt feelings easily.

One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"

I am anything but shut-in. I fly every damn day, although I am not doing students because of Covid risk, real or perceived. And I am assembling a Dockside and an FF2 in my evening relaxation sessions. I do like the P5a, but so far have only one - the streamlined MTH. It is an ok model, although the screens are inset too far.

This doorstop version is outside any doorstop desires I may have. My GG1 fleet is similar, but with mostly Wolfer trucks, putting them on the margins of doorstopism.

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Re: P5a

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:09 pm

bob turner wrote:One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"


She should have run him over. Claim defending herself from being endangered by a total A-hole
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Re: P5a

Postby E7 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 6:23 pm

bob turner wrote:"Probably Turner-Covoid Shut-In syndrome caused by the shock . . ."

Come, now. Liberals are very sensitive, and can get hurt feelings easily.

One of my liberal pilot buddies was in her truck, with a mask on (not required) when one of the less liberal airport denizens stuck his face in her open window and started shouting at her for wearing a mask, using expletives. He did not do that to me - I said "six feet, buddy!"


Take note of the hyphen. The "Turner" indicates the Doorstop affliction and the Covoid part is indicative of the times. No malice was intended.....well, maybe just a smidgeon.... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your lady friend should have popped that Bozo a good one.

Bill Wolfer....Got any good stories about him? Never had the pleasure of meeting Bill. I was fortunate enough to chat with Ed Duddy a couple times at TCA York.

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Re: P5a

Postby bob turner » Mon Jul 27, 2020 7:58 pm

Yes, and no. I think I met him in the 1950s in Phillie when Bill Thomas took me on a tour. I definitely met him in Orange County about 20 years ago, but the only story I might have is that he had a 9" South Bend lathe - something I had lusted after since high school. I managed to get one a few years ago - what a beautiful machine.

Bill did the trucks for the GG1, the FF2, and maybe the E44. So far I have not seen the E44. I think he did etchings for that, as well. Also, he was somewhat famous for passenger cars.

That is the totality of my Wolfer knowledge.

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Re: P5a

Postby E7 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 9:00 pm

bob turner wrote:Bill did the trucks for the GG1, the FF2, and maybe the E44. So far I have not seen the E44. I think he did etchings for that, as well. Also, he was somewhat famous for passenger cars.

That is the totality of my Wolfer knowledge.


The story I've heard/read on the passenger cars is that in some of them he installed a rabbit as a passenger for certain customers. He was history by the time I owned anything O scale.

There is a thread on the E44 on OGR. Looks like a fairly nice engine to me.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/topic/prr ... 5175880806


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