Wow

[herronpeter]

This is the nicest Kemtron mogul I believe I’ve ever seen.........

https://www.ebay.com/itm/164432234903

Peter

[rogruth]

That does look very nice.

[ScaleCraft]

Other than some strange bends to the RH injector line, air pump steam feed, bell not level, headlight pointing to North Star, whistle gone, grabs on sand dome gone (but vintage holes are there!) LH running board in front of cab bent down (and ladder ripped out) smokebox support rod tweaked, air cooler lines bent up and dislodged from brackets, and the wood grain on the hungry boards is a tad over scale....I like it. Strip it, re-solder and clean up, straighten and repaint.
Minimum wage, should go for $50 to $75....but wait! No Bidding! BIN for $400!
"Tries to run, but binds up. "
"SOLD AS-IS for repair."

Run, Forrest, Run!

[rogruth]

I'm sure you are right, Dave. And I think this is one reason I don't buy stuff from e-bay, I cant see those things.
At an in person sale where I can hold it in my hands, if possible, I can see those problems much easier.
Some of the stuff you pst from e-bay has very obvious problems and with your, and others, help I do see the problems.
Some are so obvious I can even see the problems.

[ScaleCraft]

One of many evilbait issues. Lousy photos, staged to minimize existing damage, limited numbers, inability to hold he units in question and view anything you want.
Be observant, research what it was supposed to look like.
And don't believe the barker.
Beware of the sleight of hand, the directing of your attention.

[E7]

One of many evilbait issues. Lousy photos, staged to minimize existing damage, limited numbers, inability to hold he units in question and view anything you want.
Be observant, research what it was supposed to look like.
And don't believe the barker.
Beware of the sleight of hand, the directing of your attention.

Nope. What you call Ebay issues are SELLER issues.....and if the images are sooooo BAD, how were you able to spot all those problems???? Don't like the existing images? As a potential buyer you may ask the seller to provide the view/views you want! You know going in you can't "hold" the units. That is a de facto feature of online auctions. If you are still peeved after all this, there is a 30 day return period.

Fear not, there is another auction starting any moment, step right up!

[herronpeter]

I STILL think it’s a nice looking Kemtron mogul. Show us a nicer looking one anyone? I’m not talking about would I buy it or does it run like a watch but strictly how it looks! I don’t think the pictures are bad at all.

Never suggested it was a "good" or "bad" deal. Nice looking if a bit unusual paint job......period.

Peter

[Rufus T. Firefly]

I STILL think it’s a nice looking Kemtron mogul. Show us a nicer looking one anyone? I’m not talking about would I buy it or does it run like a watch but strictly how it looks! I don’t think the pictures are bad at all.

Given that these were kits, I agree -- it's one of the better looking ones that I've ever seen. Most have some really glaring issues. The kits tend to sell quite well and for nearly as much as assembled engine.

Pictures are far better that most -- actually in focus!

Never suggested it was a "good" or "bad" deal. Nice looking if a bit unusual paint job......period.

Unusual is also accurate on paint.

Real glaring issue exists: "Tries to run, but binds up."

[ScaleCraft]

I never said it was good or bad.

OTOH, did you see all those things before I mentioned them?

[herronpeter]

I did notice the piping was in need of some adjustments but I missed the bell for sure. Pretty minor fix. Except for high end models that the manufacturer packs super well like Glacier Park I’ve hardly ever received anything that I didn’t have to make some repair/adjustments on. I’m sure a new can motor and some tinkering would fix the running issue. I change out all those old peen field motors as I run everything on DCC sound and need less than 1.5 amps of current draw to not overload the decoder.

Petet

[bob turner]

Same guy posted this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/N-W-Norfolk-We ... SwMwBfgLzL

It said "custom" so I assumed it was Trainz, offering a bargain on the pretty good Williams "J". Not so - it really is Custom! It belongs in the "wow!" category.

[E7]

[quote="bob turner"]Same guy posted this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/N-W-Norfolk-We ... SwMwBfgLzL

It said "custom" so I assumed it was Trainz, offering a bargain on the pretty good Williams "J".
/quote]

Looks like it was painted with a HAMMER! The nose is smashed in, dents.....JUNK!

[Rufus T. Firefly]

It said "custom" so I assumed it was Trainz..........

No, not Trainz.

Seller is:

Milepost 38 Toy Trains / Arnie's Model Trains is the largest train center on the West Coast!
Located in Orange County, CA. Open 6 Days a week!

[ScaleCraft]

Same guy posted this:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/N-W-Norfolk-We ... SwMwBfgLzL

It said "custom" so I assumed it was Trainz, offering a bargain on the pretty good Williams "J". Not so - it really is Custom! It belongs in the "wow!" category.

I can see the work the builder put into that. Not sure chassis. Looks import with that gearbox cover, can motor. Speaker holes in tender floor. No idea how to fix that boiler dent and casing dent.

Now, to continue on evilbait.....there is no justification for A) sellers having photos so dark you have to save them and edit them to see what's hidden (any WHY is the detail hidden?) and B) for evilbait to not have an option on the page to lighten in place. It's like evilbait is enabling this BS. Opinion.
That said, these photos are surprisingly good.

Tender sides are pretty dinged up, especially right side. Tender sits WAY higher than cab.

Same seller, interesting fit of parts:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/PRR-Pennsylvan ... 4434683217

Same seller. Same builder it looks like. Small dings, cab for a B&O 0-4-0 looks too long (opinion), had to think a bit on the valve gear/eccentric on engineer's side...realized the reverse rod from the cab had come adrift and was laying on the eccentric.
I don't recall ever seeing a reverse taper on a US steam engine stack before. Learned something new, eye guess.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/B-O-Baltimore- ... 4432278692

[ScaleCraft]

Same seller, probably same collection. I like it. Doorstop boiler, open frame motor. Unpainted so any repairs don't involve stripping first. Never seen a smokebox front held in with two big Allen screws.
Gonna need valve gear, cylinder cocks, air cooling lines sorted, air pump repositioned, smokebox support rods (?).
Cylinder casting paring lines addressed.
Not bad at all, but at $400 it's far more than I'd want to pay for a project like that.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/O-Scale-2-Rail ... 4432193708