What's happening to large cities

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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby Neil » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:11 pm

Smoke from one apartment can often find its way to another apartment. Second hand smoke has been associated with various adverse health outcomes and also stinks. I wouldn't want my neighbors producing unpleasant noises at all hours or noxious fumes either, so I see their point.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:19 pm

robert. wrote: I wonder if they'll go after vaping next.


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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:49 pm

I smoked for @ 50 years and quite @ 35 years ago because of the cost of smoking.
I admit smoking is not smart but drinking alcoholic stuff isn't either.
Banning booze didn't work. IMO the various governments make too much tax money
from both to try complete banning. Vaping will be taxed and someday not too far in
the future the feds will legalize marijuana for the tax money.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby Neil » Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:59 pm

Roger, no one who knows anything wants to see Prohibition repeated for alcohol, smoking, vaping, marijuana, etc. But laws that stop people from polluting other people's air, running them down with their Porsche or Yugo while drunk or high are reasonable to deter people from behaving in a reckless or anti-social manner. Sort of like "your freedom to do as you please ends at the edge of your property and/or infringing on my freedom or health."
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:09 pm

Neil wrote:Roger, no one who knows anything wants to see Prohibition repeated for alcohol, smoking, vaping, marijuana, etc. But laws that stop people from polluting other people's air, running them down with their Porsche or Yugo while drunk or high are reasonable to deter people from behaving in a reckless or anti-social manner. Sort of like "your freedom to do as you please ends at the edge of your property and/or infringing on my freedom or health."

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I agree but see it as a lost cause. You are right. I just think that money wins.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:14 pm

Can you get high off of second hand marijuana smoke.

Secondhand Marijuana Smoke?
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:53 pm

HONDO74 wrote:Can you get high off of second hand marijuana smoke.


If you've ever attended a rock concert in an inside arena you already know the answer to that question.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby robert. » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:13 pm

Lots of places in PA. try to keep smokers together in buildings. Along with keeping smoke free buildings. I don't want to smell smoke. I don't want smell day old microwaved fish or some old bat's perfume. That will make you cough and sneeze. If you allow people to smoke weed. You can't stop them from smoking tobacco.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby rogruth » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:19 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
HONDO74 wrote:Can you get high off of second hand marijuana smoke.


If you've ever attended a rock concert in an inside arena you already know the answer to that question.

My daughter, at that time was 25, had a rocker boy friend she wanted me to hear so I went to a bar with her. Nice bar. Nice guy.
I was high on just half of my drink then I realized why. The audience apparently really liked the band. I guess I wasn't high enough.
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Re: What's happening to large cities

Postby HONDO74 » Sat Dec 05, 2020 4:51 pm

Looks like Macron has his hands full in France :wink:

France police security bill: Protests turn violent again
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-55201993

Dozens of protesters have clashed with police in the French capital Paris in fresh demonstrations against a controversial draft security law.

Police fired tear gas after hooded protesters smashed shop windows and set several vehicles alight.

Nearly 100 rallies were planned nationwide on Saturday over the law that would make it a criminal offence to publish pictures of police officers.

Opponents say the bill undermines press freedom to document police brutality.

Article 24 of the proposed bill makes it a criminal offence to publish images of on-duty police officers with the intent to harm their "physical or psychological integrity".

It says offenders could face up to a year in prison and be fined €45,000 (£40,500; $54,000).

Advocates say the article will protect police from harassment and targeting on social media.

But critics say media freedom and citizens' right to film police action must not be impeded, as the French police are now under intense scrutiny for alleged racism.


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