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Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 3:03 am

called the CARES Act

2020
How the Government Pulls Coronavirus Relief Money Out of Thin Air
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/15/busi ... money.html

The United States has responded to the economic havoc wrought by the coronavirus with the biggest relief package in its history: $2 trillion. It essentially replaces a few months of American economic activity with a flood of government money — every penny of it borrowed.

And where is all that cash coming from? Mostly out of thin air.

2021

Where does the money for stimulus payments come from?
https://www.wxyz.com/news/coronavirus/w ... -come-from

If you've ever wondered where that money comes from, you're not alone? Does the government just print the money, or does it come from taxes, or is it borrowed?

The U.S. Mint headquarters in Washington D.C. is quite literally the building in charge of printing money. But when it comes to where stimulus and unemployment money comes from, the printing press or U.S. Mint actually isn't involved at all.

In order for Congress to pass these trillion-dollar laws that eventually gets you money in your wallet, the Treasury Department has to borrow money.

Unlike you or me, the treasury department can borrow as much as they want. They can borrow money from private investors, foreign entities and other governments.

Basically, the treasury department issues a bond or a note, that is really an IOU, promising to pay back the money with a little bit of interest one day. But the biggest buyer of these IOUs right now is an entity called the federal reserve. They have the power to create money.

But, again they aren't printing anything. Instead, they are typing a number into their computer, and like magic, a digital currency is borrowed by the treasury department. All that borrowing gives the treasury department the ability to issue those stimulus checks.

So is there a risk to all this? There is a word that scares economists. The word inflation. That's when there is too much money in circulation and there aren't enough goods. That's when money becomes nearly worthless like in some third-world countries. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Now, economists don't believe we are at a risk for that right now, as long as all this is managed correctly and our economy is still producing more than we owe. And while all of this may sound complicated. That's how getting a stimulus checks works.

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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby robert. » Mon Mar 15, 2021 8:50 am

Inflation. Checkout grocery prices. Wegmens raised doughnut prices from 75 cents each to 4 for $4.00. You can no longer buy just one doughnut. You must spend $4.00 on 4. I feel this is why they have been pushing people to use electronic payments. You wont be able to carry around enough cash to buy necessities.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:14 am

Grocery prices were going nutz last year.

As for inflation, it's almost non-existent compared to a few decades ago. This is yet another boogeyman that's getting tossed into the mix.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Chris Webster » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:13 am

HONDO74 wrote:And where is all that cash coming from? Mostly out of thin air.

Money creation (Wikipedia)
That was one of the concepts I had to learn decades ago when I took an introductory Macroeconomics course.

Since then, I've come to realize that people are quite happy with money creation when it gets used to pay for stuff they like but they will think it is evil when the money is being used to pay for things they don't like.

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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby robert. » Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:13 am

Maybe i don't know what inflation means. I see overpriced items. Rents 25 percent higher here this year. Gas @ $3.00+ . Chicken @ $ 2.49-4.79lbs. I guess is it was inflation my salary would be going up also. So this is a depression.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:13 am

robert. wrote:Maybe i don't know what inflation means. I see overpriced items. Rents 25 percent higher here this year. Gas @ $3.00+ . Chicken @ $ 2.49-4.79lbs. I guess is it was inflation my salary would be going up also. So this is a depression.


Long ways from a depression.

What you're seeing are the results of a compromised food supply pipeline and prices that simply reflect supply and demand - it's called capitalism, :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby up148 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:32 am

I saw a breakdown of where the money was proposed to go with the 1st covid relief money and it was so full of BS that had nothing to do with covid ..............and lots of money not going to individuals or small businesses where it was needed and supposed to go. This is only a small portion of the list, but figured no one wants to read it.

BUT, I'd like to see how this "NEW" money is going to be spent. The past administration agree to this list just to get the money out to the people. And, the last relief bill never made it because it was full of BS items the DEM's wanted. Since the REP's are out of the picture now, this latest one should be a dandy! :lol:

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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby robert. » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:40 am

25 million for capitol cleaning supplies. sounds about right. all that bullsh&t produces a lot of methane gas. Plus the price of golden shovels to remove all the BS.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:50 am

up148 wrote:.....the last relief bill never made it because it was full of BS items the DEM's wanted.


The prior one that did get out was full of BS that the Pube's wanted for their wealthy backers......
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 11:50 am

robert. wrote:25 million for capitol cleaning supplies. sounds about right. all that bullsh&t produces a lot of methane gas. Plus the price of golden shovels to remove all the BS.


Maybe they can get that golden stature of Trump, pound into a shovel, and do something useful with it.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby HONDO74 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 12:15 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:25 million for capitol cleaning supplies. sounds about right. all that bullsh&t produces a lot of methane gas. Plus the price of golden shovels to remove all the BS.


Maybe they can get that golden stature of Trump, pound into a shovel, and do something useful with it.


They will have to hire union employees to do the job. There won't be any gold left when they get done pounding. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:22 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
robert. wrote:25 million for capitol cleaning supplies. sounds about right. all that bullsh&t produces a lot of methane gas. Plus the price of golden shovels to remove all the BS.


Maybe they can get that golden stature of Trump, pound into a shovel, and do something useful with it.


They will have to hire union employees to do the job. There won't be any gold left when they get done pounding. :lol: :lol: :lol:


Nah. Lottery and raise money.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby robert. » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:25 pm

More profitable to charge for a photo with said statue. $5.00 a clip.
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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby up148 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:30 pm

So, if anyone finds a list of where the latest funds go, please post it here. :wink:

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Re: Coronavirus Relief Money

Postby up148 » Mon Mar 15, 2021 1:35 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
up148 wrote:.....the last relief bill never made it because it was full of BS items the DEM's wanted.


The prior one that did get out was full of BS that the Pube's wanted for their wealthy backers......



I don't think you'll find many Pube's wants on the list I posted. But, it's past history and behind us, I want to see the new one. :wink:


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