The Saginaw PRR G5

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The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 07, 2022 11:30 pm

One of the OGR posters found a G5 and had an interesting thread discussing his resurrection of same.

i have been waiting for a Saginaw main frame to drop into my lap, since I have boiler, cab, cylinder block, and tender ready (sort of).

But in the spirit of seeing these pieces soldered together, I gave up waiting and machined a frame - and made a firebox out of .025 brass. The firebox seemed daunting, but I figured it couldn't be more difficult than a Daylight boiler shroud, so I tackled it this week.

Photos soon - remember, I am just getting started, and it looks really rough!

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:14 pm

Here it is - frame still needs a lot of work, and that firebox is only temporarily attached. I do have Dolphin trucks for the tender. I do not have the proper PRR drivers, but that is a small matter.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:34 pm

Not related - I added two more cabeese to Maroon's thread via "Edit" - page 24.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:24 pm

Working on the firebox fit - a non-trivial exercise. Yesterday I noticed a twist between boiler and cab that has been tough to straighten. Tonight I noticed that the sandbox is aligned slightly to the right of stack and steam dome, adding to the illusion.

So I checked the complete model I have hanging around here, and sure enough, its sand dome leans rightward too. There will be a Dremel grinder in my future.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:59 pm

Tough crowd around here. But posting photos helps me see flaws - in this case I can still lower the cylinder block a bit, and maybe raise the cab. Gut you can see progress, with firebox tack-soldered. Really tough getting that straight - I think I admire the kit producer, who had surely made a die for the firebox stamping.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby ScaleCraft » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:26 pm

Well, as a rule, the centerline of the piston rod should line up with the centerline of the driver axles. Looks like the cylinders need to drop down over the frame a LOT.
There was no firebox stamping in your "kit"?
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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby HONDO74 » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:05 pm

bob turner wrote:Tough crowd around here. But posting photos helps me see flaws


I would rather see pictures of your classic mustang and avgas guzzling airplane.... :wink:

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 1:37 am

I can do that. But are you saying that resurrecting a Saginaw is not worth the space here?

Dave is correct - piston rod center line should be either aligned or slightly above driver centers. Took almost a sixteenth out of there, and it is level.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:24 am

Oh, and not a kit. I got the boiler and cab castings back when eBay was a reasonable place to buy junk parts. The tender has been lounging around for decades. Wish I had an original kit.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:53 pm

For Hondo - This one is the 66, which I converted to a V8 auto. Dumb move. Still, a nice car.

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The Cub is our trainer - my personal Cub looks the same, except the stripe is red.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Wed Jun 15, 2022 9:56 pm

And I would post on the UP Steam thread, but I am trying to not be the last name on each and every thread around here - nice job on that weathering. I too like a bit of soot around the stack, but will add oranges and brown, simulating dirt and rust.

Per Dave's suggestion, I think I have this thing levelled - tonight I will attach that nice PRR pilot and maybe drill some side rods.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby ScaleCraft » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:20 pm

bob turner wrote:For Hondo - This one is the 66, which I converted to a V8 auto. Dumb move. Still, a nice car.

Not dumb at all.
Six cylinder cars had 4-bolt wheels, lighter suspension, 4-speed was the LIGHT duty Dagenham Kraut box.

I've done some conversions, back when we had actual wrecking yards. Throttle, wiring harness under hood, mounts, trans, axle and diff, wheels, front spindles, hubs, brakes. Do it right, unless somebody decodes VIN nobody knows.
Plus you get a 289 out of it, and those outlived and outperformed the 302.
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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby HONDO74 » Wed Jun 15, 2022 11:24 pm

Thanks Bob I appreciate seeing it ,Would like to see more pictures and hear more about it.

I don't want to high jack your thread. Maybe you could post the pictures over in the car thread. Looks to be another Mustang in the hanger. The first new car I bought was a 65 1/2 mustang GT. Bought it from Jack Gosh Ford in Hemet Calif. Only car I ever traded off that I wish I had Kept.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:23 am

Happy to. There is no one here who minds thread drift. Please stick around - we need as many participants as we can get.
We can turn this into cars and airplanes, since later this week I will set this project aside for a while. A Scale Craft Mike mechanism is coming in for a couple tires tomorrow, and I have the Mexicano 1001 to start.

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Re: The Saginaw PRR G5

Postby bob turner » Thu Jun 16, 2022 3:14 am

Here is me with the Decathlon. Once a week we go up together and fly upside down for 20 minutes, then head for home (slightly ill). I can still do an Immelmann turn, but no more loops. Hard to believe I have had this baby for 19 years.

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