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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby bob turner » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:10 pm

Only if we had an uptight moderator.

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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:19 pm

HONDO74 wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
Neil wrote:We have a few thugs and would be bullies but no moderator. There is no free lunch. All civilizing forces, whether reasonable or not, will greatly inconvenience the barbaric individuals amongst us.


It is a distinct possibility.


Now that Neil has turned his postings and thread to political BS.


You're reading something in that you want to find while managing to selectively turn a blind eye to:

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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:46 pm

This website has had it's problems.
BTDT.

Let's say Bill was still alive and moderating.

Let's say Neil said something one of y'all didn't like, but you knew Bill personally. You flipped him back some poo, he retaliated, maybe using one of the photos you had posted.

You get your buddy Bill to wade in, because, well, Neil is picking on you, right?

And e-mails fly, it goes right down hill.

The saving grace in all of it is "blocking". There are two members on MTJ whom I have blocked, and will never even try to respond to, as they are morons (see? without NAMING said moron, I can do that...).

I am fairly certain said moron will raise Cain over this, but I don't care.

Remember, the way it should be and the way it IS are so far apart anymore, not worth addressing it.

"Freedom of speech" ONLY applies if your speech agrees with my speech.

If you post an alternative view, you get shouted down, ostracized, thrown out.

Look up the long Dilbert cartoon from the Sunday funnies. Our paper put a disclaimer in on A-2, as the cartoon does not agree with the paper's stance, and they communicated with the artist over this horrible affront.

BS.

https://dilbert.com/strip/2022-06-26
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Neil » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:47 pm

"Now that Neil has turned his postings and thread to political BS."

Talk about BS :). Do you intentionally make stuff up or is it outside your control?
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:50 pm

Neil wrote:"Now that Neil has turned his postings and thread to political BS."

Talk about BS :). Do you intentionally make stuff up or is it outside your control?


The problem is we no longer have "discourse". We yell, rely on Twit and text, hide behind the anonymity of our keyboards.
I read your stuff, interesting take on some things.

But it is easy to "demonize" one with opposing views, as shown by the liberal response to the Dilbert cartoon.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 1:57 pm

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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:06 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:.......the Dilbert cartoon.


Which one - both for the 26th were amusing, well, if you have any appreciation for Adam's humor.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:11 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
ScaleCraft wrote:.......the Dilbert cartoon.


Which one - both for the 26th were amusing, well, if you have any appreciation for Adam's humor.


One is original, hated by liberal rags, showing identifying as a birthing human (scanned).

The second is his update to the newspapers to calm them down (apparently a re-run of two days earlier).

The "birthing human" set off liberal angst. Never happens, right?

Shit
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:19 pm

Comments on Daily Cartoonist...insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!:

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#1 Mike Rhode
June/25/2022
@ 7:25 pm
The Wash Post has stopped delivering Sunday’s comics on Saturday to get rid of the plastic packaging the supplements came in.


#2 Mark Jackson
June/26/2022
@ 6:30 am
The Rochester NY /Democrat & Chronicle/ ran the substitute in their online edition. When we get home from Ithaca later today I’ll check if the paper edition matches.


#3 Wiley Miller
June/26/2022
@ 7:03 am
The Washington Post Sunday print edtion didn’t run Dilbert at all, but they ran the substitute edition in their online version. Maybe I’m just old and stupid (ok, not maybe), but for the life of me I can’t understand what the problem is with the edition that was supposed to run.


#4 D. D. Degg
June/26/2022
@ 8:26 am
The Gannett Sunday Comics Section, which is distributed to hundreds(?) of newspapers, time traveled to 2017 for Dilbert.


#5 Jerry Brown
June/26/2022
@ 10:01 am
The L.A. Times print and digital editions ran the time-traveling “Dilbert”. Not surprisingly, the reprint is funnier than the strip it replaced.


#6 Roger Elam
June/26/2022
@ 10:25 am
I feel like there is way more Scott Adams coverage than readers want. There seems to be a Scott Adams post every few weeks. What about the rest of the cartoon world?


#7 Mike Peterson
June/26/2022
@ 10:34 am
The issue with today’s strip is that it repeats the lie that people simply choose to be transgender, presumably the way they choose to be gay.

It’s humor on a level with making jokes about Black people and watermelon or miserly Jews. First Amendment says you can smear groups, but not that businesses are required to join in the hilarity.


#8 D. D. Degg
June/26/2022
@ 10:58 am
Roger – at least give me credit for updating the item
without bouncing it to the top.


#9 D. D. Degg
June/26/2022
@ 11:05 am
Searching the archives for Dilbert shows this is only the second post about Dilbert this year. And only two for all of last year.
That doesn’t seem too much for a comic strip that is currently
one of the most widely circulated with around 2000 clients.


#10 wiley miller
June/26/2022
@ 12:52 pm
Ok, I got the two editions mixed up. Told you I was old and stupid. I thought the time travel cartoon was the one that was being replaced, and I meant to add to my original post that I thought the other one was more problematic. So the Washington Post online ran the time travel edition.


#11 Mary McNeil
June/26/2022
@ 5:05 pm
The Akron Beacon Journal (Gannett) ran this on p 1 bottom right :

“We’re Sorry
The Dilbert cartoon in today’s newspaper contains material thatcould be offensive to many readers. Unfortunatelyour comics section was pre-printed and we were bot abkle to reolace it with another comic strip.We apologize to readers who find offense,”

Um – aren’t all the color comics Sunday sections pre-printed ?

DD Degg :unlike the Gannett paper you saw, the BJ did not run the 2017 strip. Your statement makes me wonder what their excuse really was..

Mike: actually, any strip with Wally in it offends me, because I’ve worked with so many “Wally”s in my life…


#12 James M. Delach Jr.
June/26/2022
@ 6:21 pm
From what I gathered, the Tampa Bay Times and Citrus County Chronicle ran the woke Dilbert.

The Houston Chronicle, Orlando Sentinel and New York Daily News ran the time travel rerun.


#13 James M. Delach Jr.
June/26/2022
@ 6:29 pm
New York Newsday also ran the time travel strip.


#14 Barbara Stone
June/27/2022
@ 12:25 am
I guess comedy is going to be killed by PC. I thought the point of comics was to comment on our world and/or make fun of it. I do not even usually read Dilbert, but the censorship is frightening. I thought the original cartoon was a comment about the letter of the law(s). I did not see it as bashing any one group. You can read trouble into anything. I guess I will stick to Zits and Baby Blues until these are also attacked and censored or eliminated.
I keep reading about Chickweed Lane. I stopped reading it long ago because it just wasn’t funny anymore.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Neil » Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:29 pm

I'm probably definable as liberal on most issues, but I didn't see anything but reasonable satire in the Dilbert in question. The point is not that gender specific laws are wrong. The point is that there will always be people who try to take advantage of things they can, regardless of the ethics. Wally is an all purpose abuser of others and the system. That was my take. No organization would take seriously his claim of being a potential claimant to pregnancy benefits. But that doesn't stop people from trying to milk the system if they can.

There are genuine civil rights issues raised by the more extreme views people hold with regard to believing all charges of sexual harassment, without any due process. That's insane. Or viewing all police as fascists and racists, which clearly is not true. Some views of sexuality don't jibe with biologic realities. There are genuine fairness issues with trans-women, particularly biologic males who have experienced puberty, competing with biologic women in athletics. I've seen a colleague wrongly accused and persecuted for alleged sexual harassment. While I think many such claims probably have merit, others are malicious or the product of psychiatric dysfunction. The same is true about some claims for gender dysphoria I'd guess but I have no expertise there. These are neither simple legal issues, nor easily resolved. They shouldn't be about politics but reality and fairness. The fact that the Republican party would like to in large part reverse the social progress of non-conforming people is undeniable, however. They actually believe homosexuality is a "choice," for which there is little to no evidence, for example. They actually seem to take joy in stigmatizing people different from themselves in terms of language, culture and biology.

No shortage of craziness in the world, although at present the right hand part of the political spectrum seems most extreme. QAnon, the most extreme MAGA delusional thinking, etc. This is as contrasted to the 1930s in Russia and the 1960s in the USA. Liberals excused or denied the horrors of Soviets and got a lot wrong about the military in the 1960s. There are no politically viable socialists or communists in the USA at present, whatever nitwits from the Republican party suggest. I'm a Roosevelt Democrat :).
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:43 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:Comments on Daily Cartoonist...insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!


You seem to have a very large amount of time to waste.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:50 pm

Neil wrote:Wally is an all purpose abuser of others and the system.


I seem to recall Wally once expounding, "If something is worth having, it’s worth abusing."

Having been a Dilbert reader for several decades, it was at one level amusing and wickedly satirical, and not for all, and on another level was prone to our questioning whether Adams had bugged our offices and phones and was merely transcribing our daily reality.

It's still good for a wheeze every morning, but maybe only for those that escaped cubicalville or something of that ilk.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby ScaleCraft » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:57 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
ScaleCraft wrote:Comments on Daily Cartoonist...insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!


You seem to have a very large amount of time to waste.

No.....reading the whingeing going on here, just tried to show the point.

Obviously not for you to read, is it? Maybe you missed the first line:

"insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!"

Was insightful, none the less.

I remember when the structure started failing. Berkeley, 1968-1969. I was in the area.
Maybe if you'd actually read up on some of this stuff and comprehend, perchance your responses would not be so negative:
"You seem to have a very large amount of time to waste."

Nothing to bring to the table, so a dismissive, short-sighted, demeaning comment.

I expected no less.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby robert. » Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:45 pm

I remember way bake when. Dilbert took up smoking. I wanted the extra breaks smokers got.
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Re: O Gauge Forum implodes

Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:29 pm

ScaleCraft wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:
ScaleCraft wrote:Comments on Daily Cartoonist...insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!


You seem to have a very large amount of time to waste.

No.....reading the whingeing going on here, just tried to show the point.

Obviously not for you to read, is it? Maybe you missed the first line:

"insightful, ignore if finding out what's going on offends you!"


Naw, I saw it.

Look for a Long Time at What Pleases You......
And Longer Still at what Pains You.....

Was insightful, none the less.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Nothing to bring to the table, so a dismissive, short-sighted, demeaning comment.


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