lost another two today in Dallas

[ScaleCraft]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 683187002/

B-17 and P-63.

[up148]

That is terrible news on so many levels. Wow!

[De Bruin]

Looks like due to pilot error too. Grim reminder that as much as we love these old warbirds they can crash and burn
like any other aircraft. Not a lot of them left either, I wasn't even aware there was still flyable a example of the P-63, obscure bird.
I recognized that B-17 too as it annually showed up here in Atlanta for an airshow, flying over my house on the approaches to Peachtree-Dekalb.
They would sell hops in it for $250 a pop.
Very, very sad.

[robert.]

This happens too often. With horrible results. It might be time to limit how many can be in the air at once.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Worse than the loss of the planes, 6 dead.

[robert.]

The aircraft dose not bother me. It’s the loss of life. This could have easily happened over the grandstands.

[E7]

Obviously a terrible and tragic event. Considering the checkered history of this type of exhibition, we might question their validity as a form of entertainment. How many times is one too many?

This has nothing to do with 2 rail model trains, put it in the "Club Car".

Call me the Grinch.

[Rufus T. Firefly]

Obviously a terrible and tragic event. Considering the checkered history of this type of exhibition, we might question their validity as a form of entertainment. How many times is one too many?

Insurance companies might making that decision.

This has nothing to do with 2 rail model trains, put it in the "Club Car".

Yes.

Call me the Grinch.

[bob turner]

I no longer go to the club car. Hatred abounds there.

I was asked to join the Confederate Air Force in 1963. Back then it was a bunch of neophyte young pilots sending money somewhere so that older pilots could maintain and fly warbirds. I don't know what it is now, but I do know there is ego involved in flying those old airplanes,and the folks flying them are not the ones paying the costs.

It looks to me like the collision was due to un-briefed and un-coordinated grandstanding. It will take 18 months and millions of dollars to come up with the real answer.

[ScaleCraft]

This has nothing to do with 2 rail model trains, put it in the "Club Car".

Call me the Grinch.

Dear Grinch:

Do you spend any time in the CC? Do you not see the arguments and stupidity?
I put it here as this is where I spend my time.
If I put it in CC, can't you just imagine the comments?

[E7]

Dear Grinch:

Do you spend any time in the CC? Do you not see the arguments and stupidity?

Dear Mr. Craft, I have indeed visited the CC and even participated in the stupidity. I have yet to be wounded by anyone's words. Back when I was a brat, we had a saying: "Sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. I've been attacked on this forum for simply posting about a brass engine. Boo Hoo. I've been called more crap than Carter has pills in my lifetime, and none of it drew any blood. Many people are not nice nor are they kind. C'est la vie.

I put it here as this is where I spend my time.
If I put it in CC, can't you just imagine the comments?

I too spend (some of) my time here, and I don't expect to read about airplanes regardless how tragic the story. Maybe Mr, Turner can provide you with an airplane forum....and, yes there does remain the dreaded Club Car.

Thank you,
Mr Grinch

[HONDO74]

I no longer go to the club car. Hatred abounds there.

That's just your opinion, when you have posted in the club car you are like a drive by shooter, Drop in take your shot and split.

Those of us that have different opinions seem to get along pretty good in the club car.

Bill established the club car for discussions of any subject. Name another model train forum that you can do that...

[E7]

Bingo!

[bob turner]

I applaud that freedom. It exists here, too - we can discuss anything we like, including whether to post airplane crashes here. Attempts at forum policing are permitted, if ineffective.

Last time I dropped in to CC I felt visceral hatred toward one Nancy Pelosi. You can see what expressing that kind of hatred leads to. But while I applaud freedom of expression, I am free to not read such expression, just as Rich is free to never again open this thread. He is also free to open it, read it, and express his displeasure at doing so, just as I did with CC.

[E7]

Last time I dropped in to CC I felt visceral hatred toward one Nancy Pelosi. You can see what expressing that kind of hatred leads to. But while I applaud freedom of expression, I am free to not read such expression, just as Rich is free to never again open this thread. He is also free to open it, read it, and express his displeasure at doing so, just as I did with CC.

Perhaps MS Pelosi reaped what she sowed. Be Certain I DO NOT advocate violence toward her, but voting her out of office would be a welcome alternative.

As for this Forum, it is on the verge anarchy.