fodder 4 trash

[ScaleCraft]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226489424544

Literally, I have thrown away piles of cars in better shape than those.
I think the same person with eyesight disability built them all.
Good price, tho.
Add in shipping, $22.50 each.......

[up148]

Yeah, it seems we have a world of so called "experts" selling everything and they are totally full of sh*t. Look at the Lobaugh Worlds Fair C&O Challenger listed on EB for $2K. I never knew we had so many rocks these worms could crawl out from underneath.

[bob turner]

The nice thing is we are allowed to ask ten times what an item is worth - and we are also allowed to post comments about it. Even though I am a token liberal around here, I see a lot of good things in having a free market, both for "things" and for ideas. So, Yay!

Why is nobody commenting on that $4400 IMP Challenger, purported to have been at the 1939 World's Fair a full 15 years before it was imported from Japan?

[ScaleCraft]

The nice thing is we are allowed to ask ten times what an item is worth - and we are also allowed to post comments about it. Even though I am a token liberal around here, I see a lot of good things in having a free market, both for "things" and for ideas. So, Yay!

Why is nobody commenting on that $4400 IMP Challenger, purported to have been at the 1939 World's Fair a full 15 years before it was imported from Japan?

We left that for you to comment on!

[up148]

I have no problem and have always believed in a few market....this is not a liberal or conservative issue......or the meaning of free market meaning has changed.

I guess I just loath the liar sellers on EB who don't know what they are selling but profess it to be "rare, valuable, exceptional", when they either don't know anything about it or just trying to catch a newbie.

It's not just EB but everywhere you try to buy on the internet. Bait & Switch, Ignorance of product and out and out lies are common place. Just another version of scammers trying to rip you off.

[ScaleCraft]

or "untested", which is evilbait jargon for "doesn't work at all".

[bob turner]

There are hints that the left wing would be the one to slam controls on a free market. True "laissez faire" capitalism is a thing of the past (and maybe future). The liberal in me wants the CFPB to continue, but alas it will be gone shortly.

"Puffing," on the other hand, has been part of marketing forever. Remember the used car salesman and his little old lady from Pasadena?

There is nothing illegal about saying that "probably this $4400 model was used in the 1939 World's Fair" even when the seller knows it is not true. But if he includes it as part of the bargain, the contract can easily be rescinded due to fraud.

There is also nothing illegal about taking one of those Lionel scale B6 switchers, disassembling it, and selling the parts. It might be immoral?
Separating a locomotive and its tender is likewise legal, but grounds for assigning the seller a special place after death.

Just joking, of course - buyers, beware - there are eBay deals that are seriously overpriced. The real danger is those phone calls about your jailed niece, and how much $ is needed for her bail. Folks fall for that stuff - and we should be prosecuting!

[ScaleCraft]

Argument:

If a steam engine is listed as "original", but less tender, but originally came from the manufacturer as engine/tender, can they list it as "original", since it no longer is?

[sarge]

True indeed, Bob, but I do side with Butch on this one.

True that it all might not be illegal, but there is more to civilised society than the lawyer's definition of what is legal (or more precisely what is not illegal.)

In a civilised society, one understands the difference between doing something because one has the right to do it, and doing something because it is the right thing to do.

Someone puffs or bullsh/ts the TCA grading system, or whatever sort of sleazy behaviour, they really have no welcome place in this what is supposed to be our hobby and a refuge from "real life".

BTW, you ain't the only free-trader on this forum. GRIN!

[up148]

I'm afraid so many things in life have become worse (IMHO) because of the dishonesty of people and I let it get to me. I agree with Sarge that just because it's not illegal doesn't make it right. It's just like "lying by omission" or believing "it's not a lie unless you catch me" mindset. But, it's the world we live in, so I need to develop thicker skin.